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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (21675)	9/3/2004 5:38:16 PM
From: CalculatedRisk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

LOL. Resorting to insults now? You can't get my goat, no matter what you write. "Fear" of the opposition? - what a hoot. You are very funny. BTW, ban lists could just show posters that have not been polite and followed the rules of the thread. I've never been banned from any thread (although this comment might cause a spite banning<g>). Who cares? Start you own thread. Post here. Enjoy life.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (21675)	9/3/2004 6:56:26 PM
From: E	Respond to of 173976

Hey, tell that to E. She claims otherwise. No, I don't claim otherwise, Laz. (And I have no fear of opposition, as you must know!) I have an attitude, a visceral feeling, which I recognize as that, about free expression. It's a personal feeling. It is why I have never, despite the many occasions on which I might have, asked that anyone who has violated the TOU wrt me be suspended from SI. Years ago, I asked for one toorabout, specifying that I did not want the poster suspended or terminated. Not being an idiot, I do not believe it is a civil liberty to be able to post on any thread on SI you want to. If I think some moderator is banning for reasons I find unfair or unrespectable or sordid in some way, I say so and go elsewhere to hang out. I don't talk about anyone's "civil liberties" being at issue. And I never have. And, incidentally, I think it's rude to ban and then talk about the bannee. Not a violation of anyone's "civil liberties"! Just very bad manners. I hope you will acknowledge that I have never "claimed" that banning on an SI moderated thread was a civil liberties issue, now that I have reminded you of my actual position. You know I'm not an idiot. Please don't make me out to be one! Edit: I know of course that my visceral sense of unfairness in the case of certain bannings wouldn't exist if I weren't an American raised with a reverence for "Freedom of Speech"! We get our attitudes, and personal reactions, and values, from such childhood influences. So what might seem "unfair" or "sordid" to me, might not to someone else with different values. But it's a "feeings" thing, where SI is concerned, and I have never been confused about that. IOW, no "claim" has ever been made by me that it is a "civil liberties issue" to have been banned from a moderated thread. It may suck, imo, in certain cases, (though not in others) and I may depart because I, personally, think the reason for the ban was political or base or sordid in some way. But I don't depart with "civil liberties" on my tongue.