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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (46812)	9/4/2004 1:48:30 AM
From: mistermj	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

If John Kerry would just open up his military records by signing standard form 180, everyone could judge the truth for themselves.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (46812)	9/4/2004 12:14:06 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

You wrote I just want to know what papers Kerry has to sign to release what record. His record are all public....what is the issue? Why the rhetoric? Here, below, is a discussion of the issue. In case you don't want to read all the following, here's a quote from one of the articles: " in April on "Meet the Press" Kerry did promise to release his military records. The following week he reneged." That statement is supported by, of all things, the Boston Globe, which is hardly anti-Kerry. Read on to get the context of the above quote (since context does matter) and other information that will answer your question more fully. Here's one article that discusses the need to sign Form 180- to get complete release of Kerry's records, not just the ones he chooses to release. I have no idea who this author is, and she may have a bone to pick, but facts are facts. sfexaminer.com Here's an article specifically about the release, or non-release, of records. newsmax.com They quote the Boston Globe, which even you have to admit is not pro-Bush, as saying: the famously pro-Kerry Globe has pointed out that Kerry has never disclosed his full military and medical file to it. “the day after John F. Kerry said he would make all of his military records available for inspection at his campaign headquarters, a spokesman said the senator would not release any new documents, leaving undisclosed many of Kerry's evaluations by his Navy commanding officers, some medical records, and possibly other material.” Here's one by the Washington Times, admittedly a slightly right of centrist paper, but again, facts are facts. washingtontimes.com Here's a pertinent excerpt from that article: 'John O'Neill, the man who took over Mr. Kerry's command in Vietnam and a co-author of the new book "Unfit for Command," said such records as after-action, hostile fire and casualty reports would show whether Mr. Kerry deserved one of his Purple Hearts. Mr. Meehan, acknowledging that Mr. Kerry has not signed Standard Form 180, said the records have all been laid out nonetheless. "Has he signed the form?" he asked. "No. What he's signed is his release of privacy to the United States Navy to turn over his entire military record and he's posted it up on his Web site, so the whole world can see his entire military record." Mr. O'Neill, though, said the campaign has acknowledged in the past it that has withheld some records. "That's a lie or a carefully calculated set of words," he said yesterday in a telephone interview. "He continues to conceal, for example, his medical records. He's provided virtually none of his medical records, only an interpretation of them by a friendly physician." Mr. O'Neill said the key is Standard Form 180, which, if Mr. Kerry signed it, would let reporters or anyone else write the Defense Department to ask for all of his military records. "If he executes Standard Form 180, he would no longer be the gatekeeper, the gatekeeper would be the U.S. military."' There can be no question that Mr. Kerry controls what goes onto his website. Perhaps everything in the Navy's files is there. But we don't know. If George Bush had said "well, I posted everything about my reserve record on my website and no, you can't go to the military and get the records directly for yourself, you'll have to believe me that I have fairly and fully posted them," would that content you? (If you say yes, frankly, I won't believe you.) Why set a standard for Kerry that you wouldn't accept for Bush? That just shows closedmindedness, which doesn't seem to be one of your faults.