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To: Lane3 who wrote (67174)	9/5/2004 10:56:34 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793958

<<<I'm debating with several posters here who would apparently never commit or condone a terrorist act against an enemy of the US even as we were going down for the count. I'm amazed. I thought we had some blood and guts patriots on this thread.>>> The whole concept of Western Civilization (my simplistic take on it)is that if we take the high road, we would never be going down for the count.

To: Lane3 who wrote (67174)	9/5/2004 11:30:19 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793958

The rest of you guys apparently would cede your country to the enemy rather than violate some absolute moral precept against harming civilians. It's not what they're trying to accomplish that matters, it's what we're trying to accomplish and what lengths we would go to to stop them. You seem to have the idea that terrorism is some ultimately effective weapon. This is not true. First, it is only effective at all right now because we have standards that the terrorists don't. We are not willing to do to them & theirs what they are doing to us, and they know it. That is the knowledge they need to leverage. If the Pals knew that the Israelis would respond to bus-bombings by mass slaughter and ethnic clearings, they would not have tried the technique. The necessary condition for terrorism is that your enemy cares more about the life of your children than you do. That condition doesn't happen often. Second, people who do value human life don't resort to terrorism, precisely because they value human life and have a need to rationalize their killing. "They're all infidels, what the hey" doesn't work as a rationalization. They will therefore work hard to find targets that can be justified out of military or economic necessity, for their own sakes.

To: Lane3 who wrote (67174)	9/5/2004 1:41:32 PM
From: SirWalterRalegh	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793958

Hi Karen- " I thought we had some blood and guts patriots on this thread." For the record I am not in favor of waging a "sensitive" war such as what we have done so far in Iraq (same thing in 1991). Sadr should have been wacked a long time ago. OBL should have been pulverized during the Clinton Administration. Terrorists hiding in Holy Sites should be hit with enough MOAB's to show that our intentions are serious. Additional preemptive strikes in N Korea, Iran, Syria should be threatened and then employed with dispatch. Nuclear strikes against the US are in our future. I am not about to cede our country, culture or civilization to ISLAM. Dhimmitude in not in my future. RB