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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (67541)9/6/2004 7:56:52 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793955
 
The Jewish partisans of WWII were in the terrible position you describe, and they didn't go around trying to blow up German schoolkids, neither during the war nor in revenge afterwards.

You and I addressed this the other day. We were in agreement that Jewish culture does not include the temperament for terrorism.

Your whole "outside the box" thinking consists in recycling the old meme that terrorism is caused by desperation

Nadine, really! After I proactively wrote you that little aside letting you know that I was framing it based on "claims." Memes make very effective examples simply as a function of being so cliche.

it's the last resort of the desperate. This is false. There are plenty of truly desperate people in the world (think: Sudan) but they are not the terrorists.

It's not false. It's simply not inevitable or universal. Desperation can drive otherwise respectable people to do desperate things. This has been a theme throughout history. (Don't you just love the music to Les Miz?) Just because not everybody crosses a line when desperate doesn't negate that potential trigger. Just because lots of people eat like Bubba and never need a bypass doesn't mean that diet is not a factor in heart disease.

It's the relatively rich and well supported causes like Al Qaeda and the Palestinians who are terrorists.

So, if you're rich and well supported you can't be desperate? People get desperate when they are thwarted in some objective that is critical to them. Money is not the only objective.

It's still a false choice karen.

If you don't like my examples, come up with one of your own. You just need to create a scenario where someone has to choose between an otherwise immoral act and something priceless to him. Pick an immoral act. Pick something priceless. Then choose. Keep pairing and choosing until you find something so precious to you that you would commit the immoral act to save it. I'll bet there is something.

EDIT: On TV right now is a rerun of L&O where a man killed an HMO administrator to get new treatment for his terminally ill daughter. Hung jury.