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To: Neocon who wrote (145130)9/8/2004 6:28:09 PM
From: dumbmoney  Respond to of 281500
 
If you hold back on what you are capable of, you are restrained. Sorry.

No, restraint means using less force than is morally and legally justifiable.



To: Neocon who wrote (145130)9/8/2004 6:55:10 PM
From: GST  Respond to of 281500
 
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To: Neocon who wrote (145130)9/8/2004 6:57:51 PM
From: GST  Respond to of 281500
 
Some ideologically driven idiots railroaded this country into war by laying out a plan in which the United States, as the world's sole superpower, no longer needed to exercise restraint because there was nobody on earth with the power to stop us -- lets be clear, it is Americans who share in paying the price for the lack of restraint in the White House. When we fail to use restraint in dealing with our foreign affairs, as we did when we chose to invade a country that had not attacked us and posed no immediate threat to us, we sealed our own fate and the fate of thousands of Americans who mourn the loss of their loved ones as a result. In Iraq, the blood and the pain is of course much worse, but we give little credence to their suffering in all of this -- they are simply killed and forgotten by us, not even counted.



To: Neocon who wrote (145130)9/8/2004 7:46:07 PM
From: GST  Respond to of 281500
 
Restraint? We showed what we are capable of when we firebombed Tokyo and watched hundreds of thousands of civilians burn to death. We showed what we are capable of when we nuked Hiroshima -- one of the few more-or-less untouched cities because it had little if any military significance but provided an excellent live test of the destructive power of our new weapons. We showed what we are capable of when we killed millions of Vietnamese rather that allow them to unify their country and be free of foreign domination. And we are showing what we are capable of in Iraq by using supersonic planes and high tech bombs to bomb ancient cities like Najaf to show we are "in control". We are capable of so much -- but all too often our raw power is expressed in our ability to destroy, our ability to kill. Restraint? No. We have not shown shown restraint -- just incredibly bad judgement and a willingness to use our raw power.