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To: unclewest who wrote (55586)9/13/2004 12:41:58 AM
From: upanddown  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Another thing we should be talking about.

Forget the detail for now.

Are the forms conceded to be correct and consistent with the version of the forms used in the applicable period?

Anyone who has worked in a large organization knows that forms are modified frequently and new versions are constantly appearing and the old versions disappearing.

Are these the forms used as of the date on the documents?

Can they be compared with reviews of other pilots in the same time period for consistency?

If the forms are authentic, then the forgery charge is bogus since the BLANK EARLY-70's VERSION of the forms has unquestionably disappeared into the dustbin of history.

If they are not authentic, how was the boilerplate created?

Would this elaborate forgery have involved re-creating the applicable version of the forms (presumably from authentic reviews of the same period) and then make the comically stupid mistake of doing it on WORD?????

Another question is if these documents are bogus, why isn't the Bush campaign going ballistic?



To: unclewest who wrote (55586)9/13/2004 12:54:16 AM
From: TigerPaw  Respond to of 89467
 
It's Karl, with a "K".

Many of the "facts" in this case are ambiguous and noisy scans of old memos. I think the amount of genuine information that can be gleaned from them is limited.

I think the way you have to analyse the scenario is to look at the gestalt of the information that is presented. By that I mean that there has to be a consistent theory of who produced the memos and why. To understand the gestalt it is also necessary to take into consideration the bias present in the various compilations of this information.

One such theory is that the memos were produced by Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian and the purpose was to convey the information in the memos. This theory implies that the Texas Air Guard had some nice typewriters.

Another theory is that the memos are forged by someone who is worried about superscripts and changing the margins to not match computer generated margins, and alternately not worried about superscripts and oblivious to proofreading the documents created.

I find it hard to bite my tounge over what scenario is more plausible.

TP