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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (70027)	9/14/2004 3:09:20 AM
From: unclewest	Respond to of 793955

Beslan, Jakarta, Bali, Israel, anywhere, Islamic people seem indifferent to infidel lives and often enough their own. Islam is a religious horror story and belief system on a par with the worst of the medieval Christian horrors and the Aztec live-human sacrifices. To say it is a religion of peace is obvious nonsense. It's a superstitious misogynist madness based on cruelty and domination. Maurice, Congratualations! You get it. uw

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (70027)	9/14/2004 7:52:46 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

Good morning, Mq. It's morning here, anyway. My days are getting shorter and my days are getting cooler. There is mist in the mornings and dew on the grass. I suppose that must mean that your days are getting longer and warmer. We live topsy-turvy to each other, isn't that so? I have a very hard time believing that, by the way. I think it's just another joke, must be. The world can't be that large and that strange. You don't have to care about kerning and Silver Stars. You do care, I know you do, whether politicians lie to get into office, lie and cheat to get power. We all know that everybody lies a little, everybody cheats a little, but we still care. We don't like lies and we don't like cheating. We don't like killing little children to get power, either. Actually there are a lot of similarities between the acts. People -- almost all of them men, as you know, but women are certainly capable of wrongdoing -- sit around a room somewhere and decide to commit horrendous acts in order to have power. Power for what? Surely the answer must be to commit more horrendous acts. Does anybody really say, and believe, and keep believing, "I will commit evil acts so that I can accomplish good." Double agents and spies who betray the people they live among lose their minds and their souls, and they know it. On Sunday a young man who came back from Vietnam spoke at a rally I attended. Well, he's not young anymore, he's my age. He joined Vietnam Vets Against the War and he told lies about his fellow veterans, and he said that the men he was with, including John Kerry, knew he was lying and asked him to lie, and that he lied because they asked him to lie, and told him they would not help him get back home unless he lied. And so he lied, but has never forgiven himself. He was wracked with guilt and publicly begged for forgiveness. The audience applauded him, but afterwards I spoke with him and he was still wracked with anguish. But then, he had just been confronted by hundreds of men and women who were injuried by his lies, and they still felt pain three decades later. This is what happens to normal people who do the wrong thing. Others "split," they seal off the part of their personality they cannot accept as part of themselves, so they pretend to themselves it's not there, it's not them. We enable terrorism because we accept violence as a way of accomplishing good, and therefore cannot conceptually confront it and reject it. We have to split that off. Our news media enable terrorism because they pretend that it's just another political act, the extention of politics by other means. And yes, something about Islam enables terrorism, although I am not quite sure what it is. Does the Koran really say to kill nonbelievers here on earth, or does it really say that Allah will punish nonbelievers in the hereafter?

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (70027)	9/16/2004 7:01:24 PM
From: carranza2	Respond to of 793955

Quite a post, Mq. A dandy after an imposed two-day holiday thanks to an ironically-named meteorological killer named Ivan who tried to unsuccessfully smack me down. I especially liked this part, though I disagree with it [that is, if I can like and disagree at the same time when expressing myself at this august forum, liking and disagreeing often only found in my experience in marriage]: They are violent males acting out their sexually-driven dominance genes without a human feedback loop into a well-developed person. Testosterone, dominance, lust and male answer syndrome gone AWOL, over the top, and out of control into madness. There are two things that have pacified men since time immemorial, sex and fun. I truly believe that the Jihadists are in dire need of having their ashes hauled regularly. The small bits I read about Wahabbi Arab sexuality are not good. A lot of child abuse, enforced homosexuality, pederasty, and stuff to make pedophilic Catholic priests blush takes place. You can read all about it from someone who knows: Robert Baer's book, Sleeping With The Devil, is a gruesome account of Saudi perversion, whoremongering, and general bad egg stuff. bookideas.com I think Baer described the Royals as the biggest bunch of whoremongers on the planet, and Saudi Arabia as the world's biggest bordello. He should know. Give them a little money and a little power and their sexual repression, which is wound tighter than a main hatch on a nuclear sub, will blow out in unimaginable ways. Well, Baer's books is actually about a lot more than that prurient bit, but it all gets filed together, in my view. What kind of arrogant jackass thinks he's man enough for 72 doe-eyed beauties lusting for him? Pure folderol, 2 or 3 or 4 are more than any ordinarily randy 23 year-old can handle. Yes, the 72 virgins is just one example of Jihadist fantasies, just as the hand of Allah making the Twin Towers fall instead of the ordinary laws of physics and a bit of structural engineering. The other thing driving this insanity is the interpretation given to a religious text that is so incredibly contradictory [much like the Bible] it allows the justification of monstrosities by simply quoting the odd apposite verse. But we know that and there is nothing fresh in that so-called insight. It's an ugly world, Mq., and only getting uglier. The killing of children was of course an abomination. I'd like to know the extent to which the Jihadi-O-Wacos [hereinafter, "Jacos"] were involved as opposed to genuine Chechen nationalists, though I'm told by Nadine and others I trust that the Jacos were at the forefront. The more I see this kind of abominable behavior on the part of so-called humans, the more I just want to tend to my tiny patch of green, move to Kauai, and ignore the world.