To: Doug R who wrote (624663 ) 9/14/2004 2:45:44 PM From: Johannes Pilch Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 A few things: If you submit "evidence" for something, the onus is upon you to prove the evidence is authentic. It just will not do to present shady memos, with no source, no originals, no expert support, and then despite that expert-after-expert condemns your documents as fraudulent, claim you need "proof" of the fact. The onus is on leftists to prove that your source documents are authentic. Our very own eyes prove they are frauds. The experts claim they are frauds. Logic requires we conclude they are frauds - like Democrats in general. According to the experts, the identical means of kerning is a dead giveaway. No typewriter on earth during the 1970's could automatically kern in the way word processors do today and that we see exists in those memos. Producing the memos in the 1970's would have required a painstaking process that reason forbids we think too place. Moreover, the guy who the memos claims is causing problems had left the Guard a full year and a half before the memo wa writting. The guard experts confirm that he was powerless by that time to do anything. There are very many other inconsistencies all of which peg these memos as pure frauds. The blurring effect would not in the least affect anything that make these documents obvious frauds. The blurring effect only has import to your microscopic treatment of the documents. You really have lost this. CBS has lost its credibility. So has the Boston Globe. John Kerry had lost his long before this. You need to step back and let reason guide you for a change. You are looking at the documents. They are identical to what only modern general technology could produce. You are looking at CBS's claims of having supporting experts when even those experts themselves deny ever supporting CBS. Despite being told repeatedly that the experts deny support for CBS, you are seeing the Boston Globe ignoring the words of these experts and heedless publishing what has not been approved. You are looking at a torrential flood of factual inconsistencies within the content of the documents that make them fraudulent on the surface. You are looking at documents with no known source, with no known originals, that appeared mysteriously, amidst a presidential campaign, and that rest completely on Dan Rather's meager credibility. You are looking at expert-after-expert who condemn the documents. You are looking at a profound amount of evidence against authenticity and almost none for it. And yet you still maintain the documents are authentic. You are representative of exactly the sort of people who gleefully support obvious frauds like John "Combat V" Kerry.