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To: geode00 who wrote (23277)	9/15/2004 4:55:40 AM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Respond to of 173976

wow, what a post. thank you. wish i could talk like that. lol. "mature, complex, and diplomatic". i like that. it's a complex world, not black and white. i was talking with a sister and i said that atleast with Kerry i felt hope. he has the penach (sp?) to talk with people and work things out. really, in my simple southern mind, most folks if you can sit down and talk with them you can come up with something that works. some folks are jerks? ala Bush. well, gotta just give 'em the heave ho. but they are the minority, and it isn't smarts that matters. it's that maturity thing. neither Bush, nor his team beyond the denuded Powell, has the grip nor desire to come to terms with Iran nor NK. and both countries are willing to talk, i think. but why should they now? if someone rattles a saber at you, you protect yourself. if we keep this up, the world will rise up and slap us down. we might be the only super-power, but we ain't stronger than all of them together. it'd be like a petulant child being given a time-out. lol. how sad. yes, mature Kerry. complex and diplomatic.

To: geode00 who wrote (23277)	9/15/2004 7:11:17 AM
From: DayTraderKidd	Respond to of 173976

Well said. I would hate to wake up and have a post like that staring me in the face...

To: geode00 who wrote (23277)	9/15/2004 10:17:33 AM
From: Knighty Tin	Respond to of 173976

geode, Hey, don't knock it. The increase in heroin production in Afghanistan is Bush's only positive economic story. <G>

To: geode00 who wrote (23277)	9/15/2004 8:58:57 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

Kerry is a weak indecisive politician. The fact that most of his supporters on this thread oppose Kerry's expressed Iraq policy, but think he can be "forced" into adopting a cut and run policy they want is the most dramatic proof possible of that. Let's elaborate on that. Do you, geode, support Kerry's policy of staying in Iraq till a stable gov't is established even if that takes four years? Bush overthrew two governments that sheltered and gave aid and safe haven for terrorists which have attacked the US. I don't believe any American who wants his country defended from terrorism can fault him for that. Re Afghan heroin, warlords - big deal - its been going on for 5000 years - thats a whole other problem. Terror is our priority. Demanding perfection is the left's tactical argument for doing nothing to defend the country. Karzai is the recognized leader of Afghanistan - by every country in the world including the UN. And we are being supported in Afghanistan by NATO and the UN. Re Iraq - it has to overcome the damage done by 30 years of totalitarian rule. That creates problems - similar to those faced by the former USSR and Yugoslavia. Another example of leftists demanding perfection with no problems as an excuse for doing nothing to defend the country. ZERO support from our traditional allies Where do you get that - Britain is a traditional ally. Historically European nations have been either enemies or neutral. THE COMING DRAFT Uh, the Democrat party favors a draft. Not the Republican. Re "competent warfare", there is no such thing, only victorious warfare. The D-Day invasion, for example, would be considered a drastic failure by your standards, filled with intelligence failures and operational fiascoes from the planning and training stages right up the victory, which is all that counted.