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To: unclewest who wrote (71058)9/16/2004 10:04:25 PM
From: Andrew N. Cothran  Respond to of 794148
 
And the majority of the American voting public will walk into the voting booths in November and tell John and Teresa exactly what they think of them.

And John Edwards will go to Elizabeth and ask for her forgiveness for ever getting involved with that pair.



To: unclewest who wrote (71058)9/16/2004 10:40:36 PM
From: gamesmistress  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794148
 
Gosh, are you sure? The AP doesn't mention it in this report. <sarcasm off> But it does bury way down towards the bottom the news that tomorrow Gallup will announce a poll showing Bush leading Kerry 54-40 in a three-way matchup, with Ralph Nader at 3 percent.

Bush, Kerry Disagree on Handling of Iraq

Thu Sep 16, 7:25 PM ET

By TOM RAUM, Associated Press Writer

ST. CLOUD, Minn. - President Bush (news - web sites) pressed hard Thursday to undermine Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites) as a prospective commander in chief, accusing the Massachusetts senator of waffling on Iraq (news - web sites) and sending dangerously misleading signals to friend and foe alike.

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Kerry, addressing National Guard veterans in Las Vegas, said it was Bush who was trying to persuade voters with "a fantasy world of spin" rather than telling the truth on Iraq.

"Mixed signals are the wrong signals to send to our troops in the field, our allies and, most of all, our enemies," Bush said at a rally at a minor league baseball field in St. Cloud as he campaigned through southeastern Minnesota by bus.

Bush also kept up his criticism of Kerry's health care proposals, saying they would create a multibillion-dollar government enterprise that would restrict people's choices and drive private companies out of business.

The president campaigned in a state that Democrat Al Gore (news - web sites) carried in 2000 and where Kerry is ahead in recent polls — but one that GOP strategists consider highly competitive.

Nationally, Bush has seemed to open a lead in the days following the Republican convention. However, one national poll on Thursday suggested the presidential contest had narrowed again.

While Kerry addressed the same National Guard convention in Las Vegas that Bush had spoken to two days earlier, the president in Minnesota hammered at a favorite theme: that Kerry had continually changed positions on the war in Iraq.

"The fellow I'm running against has had about eight positions on Iraq," Bush said. "Yesterday, in a radio interview, he tried to clear things up," Bush said.

That was a reference to Kerry's interview the day before with talk show host Don Imus in which Kerry said that he could not envision invading Iraq "under the current circumstances" but also said it was right to hold Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) accountable and that he had made the right decision in voting in 2002 to give Bush war authority.

Under indecisive leadership, Bush said, "the world will drift toward tragedy. This isn't going to happen on my watch." The crowd chanted, "Four more years."

Kerry said the problem was Bush's approach and failure to own up to the seriousness of the situation in Iraq.

He told the National Guard Association of the United States: "I believe you deserve a president who isn't going to gild that truth or gild our national security with politics, who is not going to ignore his own intelligence, who isn't going to live in a different world of spin, who will give the American people the truth, not a fantasy world of spin but a world where we challenge our brave men and women to be able to meet the test of our times."

"Two days ago, the president stood right here where I'm standing and didn't acknowledge that more than 1,000 men and women have lost their lives in Iraq. He didn't tell you that with each passing day, we're seeing more chaos, more violence, indiscriminate killings," Kerry said.

Like Bush on Tuesday, Kerry was applauded, especially when he spoke of a need for good pay, equipment and treatment for guardsmen.

Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites), campaigning in Reno, Nev., took issue with Kerry's remarks at the National Guard convention. "Senator Kerry said today that leadership starts with telling the truth, but the American people also know that true leadership requires the ability to make a decision," Cheney said.

"Senator Kerry today said he would always be straight with the American people on the good days and on the bad days. In Senator Kerry's case, that means when the headlines are good he's for the war, and when his poll numbers are bad, he's against it," Cheney said.

With less than seven weeks before Election Day, the Democrats rolled out a new ad campaign.



It questions Bush's credibility in an ad showing him declaring an end to major combat in May 2003 while standing in a flight suit on an aircraft carrier adorned with a "Mission Accomplished" banner. "How can you solve problems when you won't even admit they're there?" asks the ad, which will start Friday in battleground states and on national cable networks.

A new poll from the Pew Research Center said the "bounce" that seemed to propel Bush to a lead just after the Republican convention had disappeared. But he was ahead by double digits in another survey.

The Pew poll found the race at 46-46 among registered voters, and 47-46 Bush among likely voters. A Gallup poll being released Friday has Bush up 54-40 in a three-way matchup, with Ralph Nader (news - web sites) at 3 percent.

Iraq wasn't the only issue the candidates were focused on.

Bush's latest ad running in Michigan, Ohio and other battlegrounds says Kerry's health care plan would be controlled by the government. "Not true," Kerry's campaign said in an ad released Thursday.

Yes it was, Bush said in Minnesota, trying to counter an issue that polls show is one of his weakest.

Bush's criticism followed accusations by Kerry at heath-care forums that the administration was manipulating reports to "hide the truth" that Medicare premiums will consume nearly 40 percent of the average person's Social Security (news - web sites) income by 2006.

Bush, trying to put Kerry on the run in a traditionally Democratic state, has started to spend more on advertising in Minnesota. That has forced Kerry to move up plans to advertise here. Bush's trip was his fifth to Minnesota this year. Kerry has made six stops.

On his way from St. Cloud to Blaine, Bush stopped his bus caravan in the town of Anoka, where he grabbed a carryout lunch in the Brick House Deli.

He concluded his daylong bus tour at an outdoor rally in Rochester, where he again derided Kerry's health care agenda, calling it "a massive, big government plan," and portrayed his rival as indecisive on national security. "When the president of the United States speaks, he better mean what he says," Bush said.



To: unclewest who wrote (71058)9/16/2004 11:00:14 PM
From: KLP  Respond to of 794148
 
Navy Contradicts Kerry on Release of Military Records
By Marc Morano

CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
September 16, 2004

cnsnews.com\SpecialReports\archive\200409\SPE20040916a.html

[KLP Note: Apologies if this has been posted....If it has, I didn't see it....dang, wish that search was working!
Wish we could see Kerry's face when he comes across this article!!!!! Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy!!]


(CNSNews.com) - The U.S. Navy released documents Wednesday contradicting claims by Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry that all of his available military records have been released.

The Navy, responding to a Freedom of Information Act request from the legal watchdog group Judicial Watch, also referred interested parties to Kerry's campaign web site for government military documents.

Navy Personnel Command FOIA Officer Dave German wrote in an e-mail to Judicial Watch that the Navy "withheld thirty-one pages of documents from the responsive military personnel service records as we were not provided a release authorization."

A "release authorization" would have to come from Kerry filling out and signing a Standard Form 180, something he has yet to do. A Standard Form 180 would authorize the complete release of all his military records. Judicial Watch filed Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests in August to obtain Kerry's military records.

The official U.S. Navy response was received by Judicial Watch on Wednesday, the same day that Kerry told syndicated radio and MSNBC TV host Don Imus that "We've posted my military records that they sent to me, or were posted on my website. You can go to my website, and all my -- you know, the documents are there."

When Imus pressed Kerry as to whether all of his documents were in fact included on the campaign website, Kerry responded, "To the best of my knowledge. I think some of the medical stuff may still be out there. We're trying to get it.

"We released everything that they (the Navy) initially sent me," he added.

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said the Navy's correspondence confirms that Kerry has not been forthright in releasing his military files.

"It's written confirmation from the U.S. Navy that there are additional documents from Kerry's service record that have yet to be made publicly available," Fitton told CNSNews.com.

Fitton called the Kerry campaign's contention that all of the candidate's military files have been released, "wrong."

"They (the Kerry campaign) are either ignorant or misleading us. The simple solution is to authorize the release of all records related to his service," Fitton said.

German in a letter dated September 15, also referred Judicial Watch to Kerry's campaign website for more information on Kerry's military records.

"Numerous responsive U.S. Navy service record documents, as well as service record documents not subject to disclosure requirements under the FOIA, may be accessed at" the Kerry campaign's website applying to his military records, wrote German.

"Right now we are in the 'Alice in Wonderland' situation, where the U.S. Navy is telling us to go to a campaign Internet site to get government FOIA documents," Fitton said.

"I am not aware of any other instance where [a government agency] told us to go to a political website for documents," he added. "It's not a reliable repository of government documents."

In additional correspondence with Judicial Watch dated Sept. 15, the Navy stated that it did not have a copy of Kerry's Discharge Certificate (DD Form 256N), adding that the Navy did not keep files of the certificate in its records.

German wrote in a letter dated Sept. 15, "A copy of an honorable discharge certificate (DD256N) is not placed in the U.S. Navy Service record when issued."

Jerome Corsi, co-author of the best-selling book "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry," told CNSNews.com the he was "surprised" the Navy did not have a copy of Kerry's discharge file.

"That means [Kerry's] got it," Corsi said. "It goes against his contention that he has released everything that is in his possession, because certainly that form is in his possession."

Corsi believes that the Navy's official response proves that "it's Kerry who is blocking the release of the [military] documents and nobody else."

"What's Senator Kerry got to hide?" Corsi asked. "By not releasing these files, he is creating the impression that there is something there he doesn't want anybody to see. What is it?"

Judicial Watch is also awaiting the U.S. Navy's response to its inquiry regarding Kerry's "Silver Star with combat V." The citation appears in Kerry's DD214 military form on his website, but according to military officials, no such medal exists.

"Kerry's record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a 'combat V' to anyone for a Silver Star," said a Naval official to reporter Thomas Lipscomb in an article for the August 27th Chicago Sun Times.

According to the Sun Times article, "Naval regulations do not allow for the use of a 'combat V' for the Silver Star, the third-highest decoration the Navy awards. None of the other services has ever granted a Silver Star 'combat V,' either."

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Kerry's Meeting With Communists Violated US Law, Says Author (May 20, 2004)
Kerry Lying About Anti-War Past, Supporter Alleges (March 18, 2004)



To: unclewest who wrote (71058)9/17/2004 1:03:44 AM
From: KLP  Respond to of 794148
 
I see LB already posted Bob Dole's demand re the moveon org ad....

Edit:

Message 20533719

Bob Dole just released: A call to Kerry to demand moveon remove the 'defeated soldier ad:

Statement by Former Senator Bob Dole
Fri Sep 17 2004 00:39:35 ET
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