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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (24008)	9/20/2004 1:22:58 AM
From: Kevin Rose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

He's like that guy in the yearbook who dropped out of school and got in trouble with the law, whose face was blacked out of all group photos. Osama who?

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (24008)	9/20/2004 2:16:33 AM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

George Wimp Bush. Tony Reset Blair. --- two really weird peas in the Iraq pod. Gee, GWimpBush and TResetBlair are both expressing doubts about their fight against terrorism inside or outside of Iraq. Now they tell us after minting new terrorists for generations to come. Blair is being conciliatory and has decided to avoid the Mission Accomplished debacle and RESET IRAQ. It's a brand new war just in time for fall! Apparently Fallujah is actually toast this time. It's a brand new massacre with a bit of collateral damage just in time for fall! Apparently the Iraqis we set out to liberate are now being liberated...from their lives. Gee. guardian.co.uk "Britain is embroiled in a fresh conflict with Iraq as it battles to quash global terrorism for ever, Tony Blair declared in a stark relabelling of the situation yesterday. The prime minister used a joint press conference with the Iraqi prime minister, Ayad Allawi, to say: "Whatever the disagreements about the first conflict in Iraq to remove Saddam, in this conflict now taking place in Iraq, this is the crucible in which the future of this global terrorism will be decided. Either it will succeed and this terrorism will grow, or we will succeed, the Iraqi people will succeed and this global terrorism will be delivered a huge defeat," he said. Mr Blair's fresh presentation of the chaos engulfing parts of Iraq came as the head of the army, General Sir Mike Jackson, admitted that British troops were now fighting "a counter-insurgency war". With 300 people killed last week, including three Kurdish hostages beheaded yesterday, he told the Sunday Telegraph: "August was a very busy month and British soldiers were involved in war fighting." The relabelling - described by the Foreign Office as a "new language" - also comes a week before the Labour conference, at which Mr Blair can expect to face fury at his handling of the conflict. A YouGov poll at the weekend suggested that support for the conflict is at its lowest. Just 38% of people now believe the war was right, and 52% think it was wrong, compared with 66% who supported the war, and 29% who opposed it, when US troops entered Baghdad on April 10 2003. Women in particular appear to have withdrawn their support, with only 30% thinking troops should remain, compared with 47% of men. Mr Blair adopted a conciliatory tone, insisting he did not want to prevent debate over "the wisdom of removing Saddam" and acknowledging the conflict had been "deeply divisive". A day after a leaked report suggested he had not heeded warnings about the war aftermath, he said: "There are all sorts of questions perfectly legitimately still asked about the information we had, about issues to do with weapons of mass destruction and so on, and I don't misunderstand the difficulties, even the anger ... about that". But he insisted every "sensible and decent person" should move on and recognise that the terrorists and insurgents were opposed to "every single one of the values we in countries like this hold dear". "Now is not the time for the international community to divide or disagree but to come together ... and realise that the struggle of the prime minister and the Iraqi people, for liberty and democracy and stability, is actually our struggle too." He rejected suggestions that the coalition and Iraqi forces were already losing the war against terror, but - acknowledging there was "a real fight going on" - indicated the scale of their difficulty. "If we succeed in Iraq that's a huge blow to this form of terrorism. If we don't, then of course it's very serious...."