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To: jlallen who wrote (145959)	9/20/2004 10:49:02 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 281500

Yes, in many ways it becomes merely a test of resolve. The aim of war is to break the enemy's resolve, and therefore it is inherently a game of "flinch". We lost in Vietnam because we chose a stalemate strategy, and the public got fed up over time. Even under Johnson, there was no intention of menacing North Vietnam, or even of interdicting traffic along the Ho Chi Minh trail. Nixon did eventually try to shut down the Ho Chi Minh trail, but had already signaled his urgency to find an escape, with a burgeoning peace movement creating massive unrest. In Iraq, we must return to the offensive, and show the enem(ies) that their causes are hopeless, and that the new Iraq will prevail.........

To: jlallen who wrote (145959)	9/20/2004 4:43:06 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Jlallen, re: the question is...will we elect a President in November who will stay the course...or cut and run....that will be the ultimate parallel to Vietnam.... You think that helps your Bush/Cheney ticket? I don't think that comparison is one you should try to trumpet. There are too many wives, mothers, fathers and children who would like to have seen that war end years earlier. And remember, the free world didn't come to an end when we stopped killing Vietnamese and bringing our children home in plastic bags. Those who never reevaluated our policy in Vietnam and "stayed the course" are living with the nightmare of tens of thousands of names on the wall. And with the knowledge that there was no good reason for it. But keep on thinking that we could have "won," and never ask, "won what and at what cost?" If being "conservative" means you never change horses, then don't complain when the race ends the same way each time. Ed