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To: zonder who wrote (17223)	9/22/2004 8:08:45 AM
From: JeffA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

If you were living in WWII Germany and had the chance to vote Hitler out by supporting whoever was facing him, would you not adopt an "Anybody but Hitler" stance? Analogy not valid. Bush is not hitler. He is not performing Genocide. He is not pushing the US over every other group, he is not trying to build a super race. Comparing Bush to hitler is just Dem noise that is insulting and petty. You can't verbalize anything worse so you use a strong image of history of a barbarian and try & apply it to Bush. It don't stick.

To: zonder who wrote (17223)	9/22/2004 10:18:26 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Respond to of 90947

Does the term "false analogy" mean anything to you? EDIT: Oh, I see you've already been taken to task for your fallacious argument. Never mind.

To: zonder who wrote (17223)	9/22/2004 10:23:47 AM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 90947

Oh, but there is a point you miss here: If you adopt an ABB stance, then Hitler IS an acceptable alternative to Bush since he (were he alive) would not BE Bush. For that matter, such a stance would force you to consider Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, ..., any number of monsters better. ABB remember? That means you need to consider him and his opponent as wholes and cannot reasonably adopt an ABB stance. Not that we expect reason from our opponents any longer. They have chosen to willingly and gladly follow a Pied Piper (Chinu) who has announced himself as Arab and therefore presumably Muslim, a group well known for opposing most of the values they supposedly hold so dear, such as women's rights (you do remember who Condi Rice is, right?) and pro-choice. Some of these people were screaming about oppression of women by fundamentalist Muslims in Afghanistan well before 911. Now that is all forgotten and forgiven in ABB.

To: zonder who wrote (17223)	9/22/2004 1:20:22 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 90947

Ah....reliance on faulty intel....supported as it was by every other major intel service in the world.......and the very suspicious manner in which Hussein was acting....does not equate to a lie.....and is...quite emphatically an exhibition of the same sort of lack of intellect, lack of critical thinking and abundance of bile spewing pinheadism which would cause a poster to analogize President Bush to Hitler.... You're not very bright, are you?

To: zonder who wrote (17223)	9/22/2004 1:41:47 PM
From: JakeStraw	Respond to of 90947

>>The one who lied to Americans to send your sons and daughters to an unnecessary war. Your forgetting that John Kerry voted us into Iraq also...

To: zonder who wrote (17223)	9/22/2004 1:49:56 PM
From: JakeStraw	Respond to of 90947

"Back in October 2002, when Senator Kerry voted to grant President Bush a blank check to make war, he tried to scare the American public into thinking that such an invasion was essential to the defense of the United States. Despite a lack of credible evidence, Kerry categorically declared that “Iraq has chemical and biological weapons” and even claimed that most elements of Iraq’s chemical and biological weapons programs were “larger and more advanced than they were before the Gulf War.” Furthermore, Kerry asserted that Iraq was “attempting to develop nuclear weapons,” backing up this accusation by claiming that “all U.S. intelligence experts agree” with such an assessment. He also alleged that “Iraq is developing unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) capable of delivering chemical and biological warfare agents, which could threaten Iraq’s neighbors as well as American forces in the Persian Gulf.”