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To: bentway who wrote (24761)9/22/2004 1:51:09 PM
From: Karin  Respond to of 173976
 
John Kerry and His Role in the Undermining of U.S.
Intelligence-Gathering

Written by Karen Pittman
Saturday, July 31, 2004

Victims. That's what we've become. A society of victims.

But when we wallow in victimhood, we deny natural law. We shun nature. We reject the simple truth of cause and effect. But we do so at our peril.



Consider the current brouhaha over the intelligence failures preceding 9/11 and leading up to the war in Iraq. (Case in point: If we blame the CIA, we--we who voted the CIA-degraders into office--cleverly sidestep taking responsibility. Thus we anoint ourselves victims. How convenient. How conscience-salving.)



Here's how the tortuous illogic goes:



First, we strip the CIA buck-naked, then say, ''Why weren't you wearing your clothes?''



Next, we build a wall between the CIA and FBI, then say, ''Why weren't you guys talking?''



And when the CIA is embarrassed by its nakedness; when the FBI is caught hunkering down behind that wall; when those inevitable chickens come home to roost, whom do we blame?



Do we blame ourselves? Do we blame the people who took the CIA's clothes off and who laid that wall brick by brick in the first place? Do we blame the legislators, like John Kerry, who--in the nineties, under Clinton--hamstrung the CIA by eviscerating its human intelligence-gathering capabilities (which now must be painfully and painstakingly rebuilt, even as the wall between that agency and the FBI is being loudly torn down)?



No. We blame the people who were working on the day when the system--which the strippers and separators by their actions flawed--''failed.''



Let's say you're a craftsman and your specialty is plaster. Let's say, for whatever reasons, you can only get your plaster from one source--and that source has decided to water down your product. (The manufacturer says it's cheaper, more profitable, and possibly more humane to the production workers because the process requires fewer chemicals.)



The point is: When you water down plaster, you get mud. Your plaster is now undeniably weak. It ain't what it used to be. It might now make a hut, whereas in the past it would have made a castle.



But you don’t have any choice: It’s all you’ve got to work with. So you dab it on anyway, hoping against hope nobody will notice. And the whole time your hands are tied because you can’t get the kind of plaster you really need to do the job right. Nobody makes it. You aren’t allowed to use it. It’s illegal. (Remember, it contains “potentially” harmful additives. It might give offense.)



And so you apply your flimsy film, layer by layer. But over time the cracks begin to show. The cheap plaster degrades and starts to craze. Eventually, the entire structure crumbles.



Now, who's responsible, you or the plaster manufacturer? Who do you think John Edwards would hold accountable in a court of law--you, ''the little plaster worker,'' or the big corporate mill who decided for you how the plaster would be made, and which (not irrelevantly) had a monopoly on its design and manufacture? Whom do you think he would sue for those huge horty-torty damages?



I rest my case.



The question before us is simple: Having made obviously wrong choices in the nineties, will we make them again, in 2004? Having seen close-up the consequences of those choices, are we brazen--are we foolish--enough to take the chance?



And if we are, and if those choices turn out to be wrong--dead wrong, yet again--will all the excuses and defenses in our psychic arsenal ever be enough to grease our collective guilt? Will any commission or panel answer the fury of grief? Will our victimhood help us then?



Knowing all we know now, are we really going to vote the very man who was one of the principal drafters of the CIA’s Plaster Disaster into this nation’s highest office on November the 2nd?



If we do, then we had better not wail in five, ten, or twenty years when the sticky (stinky) stuff hits the fan. We had better not whine about how ''miserably'' the CIA and FBI "failed." It is we who failed. We failed ourselves--miserably. And for God's sake, whatever we do, we've got some nerve if we blame the poor stiff who happens to be on watch, as president, when the big one strikes.



Please. The people who work for the CIA aren't idiots. They didn't ''fail.'' They weren't allowed to succeed! Their tools were taken away! Their plaster was watered down.



By whom? By the idiots in Congress, that's who. Idiots like John Kerry.



I'm tempted to say the people who elected these idiots are idiots, too. But they can be forgiven for their transgressions--if they don’t repeat them. Anybody can make a mistake or misjudgment once. But if you make the same mistake twice . . . well, you're the one at fault, then. You get the government you deserve. The next time the planes hit, don't act shocked and appalled. Don't caterwaul to the heavens as if you hadn't a clue, ''How on earth did this happen? Why do they hate us?''



If the American electorate does it again--if it votes Democrat while talking Republican ("We need a strong defense and reliable intelligence!")--then this time it can't be forgiven. And--in the face of such naked inanity--we as a people will have no choice: We’ll have to call a spade a spade. We’ll have to admit we’re idiots.



Michael Moore knows this. He knows we're gullible. (Actually, his word for it is "stupid.") He knows he can make us believe a silk purse is a sow's ear--just by saying so, often enough and loud enough, on film. (Ah, you see, for the unwashed rabble, the image is the key: Put it on [M]TV!)



Well, when you get what you wanted all along, don't bitch about it when it turns out not to be everything you thought it was going to be!



Today we're suffering the consequences of poor governance. On 9/11 we paid in blood for the bad choices made under Carter and Clinton, with their encouragement. Kerry personally yanked the pants off the CIA. And now he wants you to absolve him. He wants you to pretend you didn't see him do it. He wants you to believe it was Bush who undid the belt. No: He wants more than that. He wants you to make believe it was Bush who undid the belt--even if you know better (as does he, as does Edwards, as does Moore).



And he wants you to get rid of Bush, who is outfitting the CIA as never before, so he can yank its pants off all over again! But he will do this only after a respectable period of time has passed. You see, he must first make you believe he really wants the CIA fully clothed. Then, when your defenses are down, when you aren't looking, down come the pants again, too!



People, get a clue! In a democracy, the government you get is the one you earn. If we go back on Bush now, we go back to the era that brought us 9/11. We then set in motion the next 9/11.



Actions have consequences. No matter how good a trial lawyer you are, no matter how persuasive your argument, you cannot alter this immutable law of nature. As night follows day, effect follows cause. You vote for Clinton and Kerry, you get a stripped-down CIA. You get a stripped-down CIA, you get 9/11. You get 9/11, you get exaggerated data about WMD. You water down plaster, you get mud. Go figure.



We are not victims. We make choices, and then we live--or die--with the consequences of those choices.



You have a choice to make. You can, if you choose, choose change. Or you can choose the path of least resistance. You can choose stasis. You can choose to take us back down the same dead-end road that got us here.



It's up to you. All I can say is: If you get in Kerry's car and you end up upside-down in a ditch, don’t say I didn’t warn you. And this time, you've forfeited your right to whine.



To: bentway who wrote (24761)9/22/2004 1:52:51 PM
From: Karen Lawrence  Respond to of 173976
 
The Last Deception
By PAUL KRUGMAN

Published: September 21, 2004

It's Ayad Allawi week. President Bush, starting with his address at the U.N. today, will try to present Mr. Allawi - a former Baathist who the BBC reports was chosen as prime minister because he was "equally mistrusted by everyone" - as the leader of a sovereign nation on the path to democracy. If the media play along, Mr. Bush may be able to keep the Iraq disaster under wraps for a few more weeks.

It may well work. In June, when the United States formally transferred sovereignty to Mr. Allawi's government, the media acted as if this empty gesture marked the end of the war. Even though American casualties continued to rise, stories about Iraq dropped off the evening news and the front pages. This gave the public the impression that things were improving and helped Mr. Bush recover in the polls.

Now Mr. Bush hopes that by pretending that Mr. Allawi is a real leader of a real government, he can conceal the fact that he has led America into a major strategic defeat.

That's a stark statement, but it's a view shared by almost all independent military and intelligence experts. Put it this way: it's hard to identify any major urban areas outside Kurdistan where the U.S. and its allies exercise effective control. Insurgents operate freely, even in the heart of Baghdad, while coalition forces, however many battles they win, rule only whatever ground they happen to stand on. And efforts to put an Iraqi face on the occupation are self-defeating: as the example of Mr. Allawi shows, any leader who is too closely associated with America becomes tainted in the eyes of the Iraqi public.

Mr. Bush's insistence that he is nonetheless "pleased with the progress" in Iraq - when his own National Intelligence Estimate echoes the grim views of independent experts - would be funny if the reality weren't so grim. Unfortunately, this is no joke: to the delight of Al Qaeda, America's overstretched armed forces are gradually getting chewed up in a losing struggle.

So what's the answer?

The Bush administration fostered the Iraq insurgency by botching the essential tasks of enlisting allies, rebuilding infrastructure, training and equipping local security forces, and preparing for elections. It's understandable, then, that John Kerry - whose speech yesterday was deadly accurate in its description of Mr. Bush's mistakes - proposes going back and doing the job right.

But I hope that Mr. Kerry won't allow himself to be trapped into trying to fulfill neocon fantasies. If there ever was a chance to turn Iraq into a pro-American beacon of democracy, that chance perished a long time ago.

Can the insurgency be crushed? It's widely believed that in November, a few days after the election, the Bush administration will launch an all-out offensive against insurgent-controlled areas. Such an offensive will, for all practical purposes, be an attempt to conquer Iraq all over again. But unlike Saddam's hapless commanders, the insurgents won't oblige us by taking up positions in the countryside, where they can be blasted by U.S. air power. And grinding urban warfare that leads to heavy American casualties and the death of large numbers of innocent civilians will simply enlarge the ranks of our enemies.

But if the chance to install a pro-American government has been lost, what's the alternative? Scaling back our aims. This means accepting the fact that an Iraqi leader, to have legitimacy, must be able to deliver an end to America's military presence. Unless we want this war to go on forever, we will have to abandon the 14 "enduring bases" the Bush administration has been building.

It also means accepting the likelihood that Iraq will not have a strong central government - and that local leaders will end up with a lot of autonomy. This doesn't have to mean creating havens for hostile forces: remember that for a year after Saddam's fall, moderate Shiite clerics effectively governed large areas of Iraq and kept them relatively peaceful. It was the continuing irritant of the U.S. occupation that empowered radicals like Moktada al-Sadr.

The point is that by winding down America's military presence, while promising aid to those who don't harbor anti-American terrorists and retaliation against those who do, the U.S. can probably leave behind an Iraq that isn't an American ally, but isn't a threat either. And that, at this point, is probably the best we can hope for.

nytimes.com



To: bentway who wrote (24761)9/22/2004 3:30:45 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 173976
 
J. Chrissy poo:

Speaking of jokes....I find most of your posts so lacking in substance and logic as to be amusing.....in an intellectually deficient sort of way......