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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (12386)9/28/2004 11:49:56 AM
From: mishedlo  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555
 
A series of great posts on these issues.
Thanks KT

Mish



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (12386)9/28/2004 11:56:59 AM
From: mishedlo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
Hunnj on the FOOL on FNM

I keep seeing posts suggesting that Fannie Mae will need to issue bonds or sell assets in order to bring its capital requirements into line. The first option cannot possibly work at all and the second is not likely to work.

Look at the accounting equation:

Assets = Liabilities + Equity

At 12/31/03 FNM looked like this (numbers in millions):
Assets $1,009,569 (as in $1 trillion)
Liab $987,196
Equity $22,373

Let's say they issue $10 billion in bonds. Then the numbers become:
Assets $1,019,569
Liab $997,196
Equity $22,373
Not only does equity not change, but the debt to equity ratio is worse.

Let's say they sell $10 billion in assets and use the proceeds to retire debt. Then the numbers become:
Assets 999,569
Liab 977,196
Equity $22,373
Equity is unchanged and the debt/equity ratio is only marginally better.

If it's possible they have assets with unrecognized gains of $10 billion and they sell them, then it changes the picture. The unrecognized gains would flow to equity on the gain on sale. Let's say they sell $50 billion in assets which have not been marked to market and have a $10 billion gain. They use the proceeds to retire debt.
Then the numbers become:
Assets $979,569
Liab $947,196
Equity 32,373
The accounting on this works out but how likely is it that they have $10 billion in unrecognized gains? Not very. Their problem is assets with unrecognized losses.

This leaves two likely options:
1) Issue stock. A $10 billion stock sale yields the following:
Assets $1,019,569
Liab $987,196
Equity 32,373
This looks the same on the balance sheet as selling an asset sale with unregognized gains but the income statement would show no profit on the transaction as the asset sale would.

2) A gift (from whom do you suppose?)
Assets $1,019,569
Liab $987,196
Equity 32,373
In this case there would be a profit as money has dropped from heaven ... well actually most likely the Fed.



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (12386)9/28/2004 1:55:48 PM
From: XBrit  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555
 
My thought is, is it too late to change the result of the civil war? If we could retroactively declare the north to have lost, all those republican southern states would be in a different country from California and New York. They'd probably like that too, huh.



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (12386)9/28/2004 3:39:37 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 116555
 
there may not be any more elections after Dubya has his second term.
Wanna bet?

Ray Duray until recently was saying exactly the same thing about THIS election, dingbat!