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To: Joe NYC who wrote (204354)	9/29/2004 7:02:20 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577179

Are you not aware of the 100s of Al Qaeda in our custody that are alive, and will never be killed, since they surrendered? Look, there is the rule of law, which the US is trying to promote around the world. Part of the rule of law in the US includes the death penalty. If a person in custody - terrorist, serial killer, spy or whatever - is convicted of a crime that the jury/judge decides merits the death penalty, they will be killed. That's the US legal system. We will never kill the Al Qaeda in US custody (because of various ACLU reasons). Why not? Elroy

To: Joe NYC who wrote (204354)	9/29/2004 7:29:04 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1577179

re: Are you not aware of the 100s of Al Qaeda in our custody that are alive, and will never be killed, since they surrendered? Are you not aware of the 20th Al Qaeda highjacker, a combatabt who is alive and well in the US custody, making a mockery out of our civilian justice system? No, I wasn't aware that there were "100's" of <proven> al Qaeda in custody in the <US>. What the CIA is doing with it's hidden prisons, and the numbers of al Qaeda in foregin custody, I don't know. As far as "making a mockery out of our civilian justice system", whose justice system would you prefer? Russia, the Taliban? They would certainly be more effective by your standards... but there are the side effects. re: We will never kill the Al Qaeda in US custody (because of various ACLU reasons). But once they are on the open battlefield, ACLU rules don't apply, and we can kill them. Are you nuts? Do you think these guys are walking around with "al Qaeda" tee shirts? How many al Qaeda operatives do you think are in the US, just shoot me a number. Bush should have made an all out offensive at Tora Bora. That was probably the last battlefield in the "war on terror". re: You tell me how to go around the problem. There is basically no way right now. Maybe a second 9/11 would weaken the ability of the leftists to protect the terrorists, but right now, terrorists are protected if they have the smarts to raise a white flag when cornered. That's crap. They capture them only so they interrogate them. re: The bottom line is that successful self defense under these restrictions is impossible, defeat of the civilized world by the bloodthirsty jihadist is inevitable. There you go again <credit to RR 1980 debates> with your jihadists at the border fantasy. Think about the numbers, and think about what you just said. Exactly how are these guys going to "defeat the civilized world". You really out to get some help about that paranoia thing. Kerry isn't perfect, but my best guess is that he would have gone after the guys that hit us, not the guys that didn't. He isn't saddled with a neo US world dominance by military might scheme. We would have probably taken out the al Qaeda leadership, and the country would be well on it's way to emotional repair from 9/11. We wouldn't be contemplating perpetual war and nation building. John

To: Joe NYC who wrote (204354)	9/29/2004 9:07:44 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1577179

re: As of now, there is no will to kill the surrendered unarmed killers, no matter if they are Al Qaeda or not. I wonder how this happened? Two Sentenced to Death for Cole Bombing By AHMED AL-HAJ, Associated Press Writer SAN'A, Yemen - A Yemeni judge sentenced two men to death and four others to prison terms ranging from five to 10 years Wednesday for orchestrating the 2000 suicide bombing of the USS Cole (news - web sites), an attack blamed on Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s terror network.