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To: michael97123 who wrote (146626)	9/29/2004 4:17:18 PM
From: teevee	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I see no real talk about what novak says will happen next year re: withdrawing. From a historical perspective, Britain spent about 150 years in India for democracy to take hold. Britain only spent 40 years in Iraq and apparently it wasn't long enough. If you or anyone else actually believes the US can withdraw sometime next year AND for democracy to take root and blossom in Iraq, you are dreaming.

To: michael97123 who wrote (146626)	9/29/2004 4:21:42 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I see, so you think that being candid means to admit that the defeatists are right, come clean about pulling out, and find out who blew things. Well, of course Bush is not going to satisfy you. He may be putting too much stock in the power of will, but he is determined to stay the course and prevail. The Administration has prepared people for half- a- loaf, that is, a government heading in the right direction, but not fully democratic, but it is not ready to throw in the towel about the direction of the evolution. And I think they are right. It is always, finally, a contest of wills. They persist because they think we will give up if they cause enough trouble. If, instead, they buy more trouble, that is discouraging. Eventually, we will prevail because the populace will actively turn on them, and give them up to us, or the Iraqi forces.........