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To: JBTFD who wrote (17899)9/29/2004 6:20:49 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
Wrong. The poll you posted shows that 54% favored invasion, even without UN passage of a "final" (or should I say "final and we mean it this time, really") resolution.

Of course, you'll try to argue that the US actually never brought such a final final resolution to a vote and claim only 47% were OK with invasion on that basis, but you'd only be picking nits. The reality of the situation was that the US tried to bring a final resolution to a vote, but Jacque Chiraq's France indicated that it would veto ANY new resolution that authorized force under ANY circumstances.

And had the US and Britain allowed the vote to occur, in case you missed it at the time, there was a lawsuit waiting to be heard by British courts arguing that British participation after the resolution was vetoed would be illegal under British law. If nothing else, that would likely have delayed action by months, if not longer. In other words, the US, UK and, in fact, the entire UN were being held hostage to Chiraq's attempt to protect his oil-for-food-bribing friend Saddam Hussein.

Sorry, Mark, but the reality is that, by your own proof, 54% of Americans supported the invasion, even without UN approval.



To: JBTFD who wrote (17899)9/29/2004 8:17:15 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 90947
 
But that support drops off if the U.N. backing being sought by the United States, Britain and Spain Monday is not obtained. If the U.N. Security Council rejects a resolution paving the way for military action, only 54% of Americans favor a U.S. invasion. And if the Bush administration does not seek a final Security Council vote, support for a war drops to 47%.
That says 54% support REGARDLESS of the outcome of a Security Council vote.