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To: michael97123 who wrote (146794)	10/1/2004 10:59:12 AM
From: Ish	Respond to of 281500

<<He looked exhausted to me and it think both the presidency and this campaign are taking their toll.>> Bush probably was a little tired, he spent yesterday in Florida doing his job helping with the recovery from the storm damage. You can bet Kerry wasn't in the Senate doing his job, the one he's neglected for 20 years.

To: michael97123 who wrote (146794)	10/1/2004 11:03:37 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 281500

*Pulitzer Prize Winner Seymour Hersh Will Be Interviewed Right Now On NPR's Diane Rhem Show...fyi... wamu.org Chain of Command The Road from 9/11 to Abu Ghraib by Seymour Hersh Since September 11, 2001, Seymour M. Hersh has riveted readers -- and outraged the Bush Administration -- with his stories in The New Yorker, including his breakthrough pieces on the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. Now, in Chain of Command, he brings together this reporting, along with new revelations, to answer the critical question of the last three years: how did America get from the clear morning when hijackers crashed airplanes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon to a divisive and dirty war in Iraq? Hersh established himself at the forefront of investigative journalism thirty-five years ago when he broke the news of the massacre at My Lai, Vietnam, for which he won a Pulitzer Prize. Ever since, he's challenged America's power elite by publishing the stories that others can't, or won't, tell. In exposés on subjects ranging from Saudi corruption to nuclear black marketeers and -- months ahead of other journalists -- the White House's false claims about weapons of mass destruction, Hersh has cemented his reputation as the indispensable reporter of our time. In Chain of Command, Hersh takes an unflinching look behind the public story of President Bush's "war on terror" and into the lies and obsessions that led America into Iraq. He reveals the connections between early missteps in the hunt for Al Qaeda and disasters on the ground in Iraq. The book includes a new account of Hersh's pursuit of the Abu Ghraib story and of where, he believes, responsibility for the scandal ultimately lies. Hersh draws on sources at the highest levels of the American government and intelligence community, in foreign capitals, and on the battlefield for an unparalleled view of a crucial chapter in America's recent history. With an introduction by The New Yorker's editor, David Remnick, Chain of Command is a devastating portrait of an Administration blinded by ideology and of a President whose decisions have made the world a more dangerous place for America. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Imprint: HarperCollins; ISBN: 0060195916; On Sale: 09/13/2004; Format: Hardcover; Subformat: ; Length: ; Trimsize: 6 x 9; Pages: 416; $25.95; $36.95(CAN) harpercollins.com

To: michael97123 who wrote (146794)	10/1/2004 11:58:16 AM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<would you have direct talks with NK when there is a coalition of 5 nations directly affected in the middle of a negotiating process with NK? I dont get it.> This is an extremely serious issue. I mentioned it many times on this thread. Bush let two years go by -- two years -- in which North Korea went from being contained to being a country with nuclear weapons because Bush did not want bilateral talks. North Korea would not agree to multi-lateral talks, and finally agreed AFTER they had completed their first set of nukes and test-fired the medium range missiles that put the capitals of most of southeast asia within their range. This was the most stupid -- I a truly mean the most stupid -- and ideologically driven blunder I have ever in my life seen. Bush included North Korea on his axis of evil speech, prepared to invade Iraq and refused to do what was blatantly needed -- talk to North Korea immediately. Kerry is right -- we can have bilateral talks and should have them. The multilateral talks will NOT fall apart -- on the onctrary, they will be far more likely to bear fruit. Bush cost us and world more than we can begin to recover when he threatened North Korea and then refused to talk -- he set the stage for them to do exactly what we did not want them to do -- complete their nuclear and missile programs. If we attack North Korea now, it will be with the clear risk of killing tens of millions of people in a radioactive blood bath the likes of which this world has never seen. Make no mistake, the situation in North Korea is our second worst dream come true -- our fist is a series of small nukes coming in from loose nukes in the former Soviet Union. On North Korea, Bush has been a miserable failure.