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Politics : Proof that John Kerry is Unfit for Command -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: American Spirit who wrote (14361)	10/1/2004 5:11:09 PM
From: Wayners	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27181

OH really then you missed what Gardner had to say..he was a boat mate longer than ANYBODY else.

To: American Spirit who wrote (14361)	10/1/2004 5:44:08 PM
From: Captain Jack	Respond to of 27181

What Am Spit REALLY means is Kerry has not denied a single charge of the Swifties. Kerry has admitted to two huge lies that he gave as testomony to congress. Kerry never had a wound more than Threasa gets from a rose stem. The only two confirmed kills of Kerry are a child and wounded teenager. HHMMmthat '0' just appeared. Like many 'wannabes' they are fakes and liars. Kerry goes to the head of that group for killing thousands of GIs too.

To: American Spirit who wrote (14361)	10/1/2004 6:42:24 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27181

If you wish to have a discussion with me, this is much more effective. Now you have presented your version of these people's story. You have not refuted their points, and I remain of the opinion that they are true, but am willing to be educated. One of the facts you use, conflicts with a fact they have given. Veterans for Truth claim that repair records show that Kerry's boat had not taken any ENEMY fire weeks after the engagement. People have claimed it was Kerry's handwriting. Kerry can remove doubt by filing a form 180. Additionally, Kerry claimed that his boat fled from the explosion. Now you appear to be saying that his story has changed. O'Neill has made it clear every time I have heard him (perhaps twice) that he never knowingly encountered Kerry while they were in Vietnam. It seems like he said he served after Kerry in the same unit. Is that accurate? The claim that Kerry faked a wound is not one I had encountered. Would you like elaborate about Kerry's claim? 50 yards is the width of a football field. Therefore, Rasmussen who has donated to Kerry is not credible either. Now we know the standards, and can apply them equitably. Grudges happen. Kerry's failure to release his military records creates the impression that he is hiding one or more things. The liberal press is willing to give him a pass. I prefer knowing facts to having an inflammatory poster shouting liar.

To: American Spirit who wrote (14361)	10/1/2004 9:01:10 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 27181

"The night was pitch-black, neither Swift's search or boarding lights were working properly, and both boats kept getting stuck on the bottom of the shallow channel. Many minutes of silent patrolling had gone by when one of the men yelled Sampan off the port bow. Everybody froze and we slowed the engines quickly. But the sampan was already by us and wasn't stopping. It was past curfew and nothing was allowed in the river. I told the gunner to fire a few warning shots and in the confusion all guns opened up. We moved in on the sampan and taking one of the battle lanterns off the bulkhead shone it on the silhouette of the craft that was now dead in the water. The light revealed a woman standing in the stern of the sampan with a child of perhaps two years or less in her arms. Neither was harmed. We asked her where the men from the stern were, as one of the gunners was sure that he ahd seen someone moving back there. She gesticulated wildly and I could see traces of blood on the engine mounting. It was obvious that they had been blown overboard. Then somebody said there was a body up front and we moved in closer to see the limbs of a small child limp on the stacks of rice. She had already covered it, and when one of the men asked me if I wanted it uncovered I said no, realized the face would stay with me for the rest of my life and that it was better not to know whether there was a smile or a grimace or whether it was a girl or a boy. " The Navy report of this incident, written by Kerry reads, "20 January PCFs 21 and 44 operating in An Xuyen Province engaged the enemy with a resultant GDA of VC KIA (BC) body count four VC KIA (EST) and two VC CIA (captured in action)"---the mother and the baby VC captured in action according to Kerry.