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To: Bill Ulrich who wrote (1960)	10/2/2004 1:25:44 AM
From: Don Earl	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6035

"The "problem" is using a ~ten-year old browser." Actually, Netscape 4 would be closer to 6 years old. "Technology advances a lot in 10 years." Indeed it has. Spyware, most trojan programs and the latest and greatest viruses are all incompatible with the "obsolete" browsers. It's been ages since the last time I had to reformat my hard drive to cure some malevolent code picked up online. The newest versions of both AOL and MSFT come pre loaded with their own spyware, and will take over your whole system if you're silly enough to install them. "10-year old browsers account for <1% of user base and traffic." According to whose numbers? Microsoft's? On my own site, older browsers account for nearly a quarter of the traffic. A minority for sure, but too big a chunck for me to want to lose. The <1% is a self fulfilling prophesy for anyone who writes their code to be incompatible with anything other than AOL or IE. Anyone who doesn't use those browers won't bother with the site. From my experience, over 95% of the Internet will display properly using Netscape 3. Netscape 4 will cover everything else as long as it doesn't require special plug ins such a shockwave. If you absolutely have to have current security certificates, you can get a download for IE from Microsoft, without installing the current spyware programs. The sad fact of the matter is the software industry is so competitive they are basically forced to release buggy programs as soon as they work even a little bit. As a rule of thumb you can figure on at least a year's worth of patches in order to end up with a halfway stable product. I'm sure there are those who think it's wonderful to be the first person on the block to discover the bugs, but I'm not one of them. When I use my computer, I want it to work. Not only do I want it to work, I want it to work the same way everytime I use it. I want it to work fast and I don't want to wait while it sends a bunch of personal information to people who have no business whatsoever in having access to that information. So, while you may consider all of the above to be somewhat of an odd attitude, I may assure you I feel the same way about the lemmings who pop up to rag "old" browsers. Netscape 3 will download pages at least 4 times faster than any browser built in the last 5 years. If all I'm doing is browsing or research, that's what I use. If I run across a blank page, I move on to something else. If I run across a page with a big square and a little red "X" in the corner, I move on to something else. If I run across a site that's too obnoxious to navigate, I move on to something else. I don't miss a thing going that route. For every site I skip, there are 30 more I can use hassle free.

To: Bill Ulrich who wrote (1960)	10/2/2004 3:56:03 PM
From: Eric L	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6035

Browser Usage & Screen Resolution Usage Bill, << 10-year old browsers account for <1% of user base and traffic. >> Actually, even 6 or 7 year old browsers account for (considerably) <1% of user base and traffic. <g> My curiosity was aroused on this so I went looking for some stats. There are several sources but to dramatize the loss of Netscape usage share, here are 3 summary press releases from OneStat who claims to be "the number one provider of real-time website analysis software," in reverse chronological order dating back to 2 years ago when Netscape Navigator (all versions) still had 3.0% global usage share to this June when they slipped off the map: May 28 2004 OneStat.com, today reported that Microsoft's Internet Explorer has a total global usage share of 93.9 percent. Microsoft's Internet Explorer still dominates the global browser market. Microsoft's IE 6 is currently the leading browser on the web. Microsoft's IE 6 global usage has increased with 1.2 percent from 68.1 percent to 69.3 percent since July 2003. Mozilla's global usage share is 2.1 percent and Opera 7 has a global usage of 1.02 percent. The global usage share of Apple's Safari browser has increased with 0.23 percent from 0.48 to 0.71 percent since January 2004. The most popular browsers on the web are: · 1. Microsoft IE 6.0 69.3% 2. Microsoft IE 5.5 12.9% 3. Microsoft IE 5.0 10.8% 4. Mozilla 2.1% 5. Opera 7.0 1.02% 6. Microsoft IE 4.0 0.6% 7. Safari 0.71% onestat.com July 28 2003 OneStat.com today reported that Microsoft's IE6 global usage share continues to rise. Internet Explorer 6 has shown a fast adoptation rate with a global usage share of 66.3 percent. Microsoft's Internet Explorer has a total global usage share of 95.4 percent. Microsoft's Internet Explorer continues to dominate the global browser market. Netscape's total global usage share has decreased 0.4 percent the last 2 months. Netscape's total global usage share is 2.5 percent at the moment. The global usage share of Apple's Safari browser has increased with 0.14 percent from 0.11 to 0.25 percent since February 2003. The global usage share of Mozilla has increased with 0.4 percent from 1.2 to 1.6 percent since February 2003. The most popular browsers on the web are: · 1. Microsoft IE 6.0 66.3% 2. Microsoft IE 5.5 14.5% 3. Microsoft IE 5.0 12.7% 4. Mozilla 1.6% 5. Microsoft IE 4.0 0.8% 6. Netscape Navigator 4 0.6% 7. Opera 6.0 0.6% · Companies with the largest total global usage shares on the web are: · 1. Microsoft IE 95.4% 2. Netscape Navigator 2.5% 3. Mozilla 1.6% onestat.com September 30 2002 OneStat.com today reported that the global usage shares of Mozilla 1 and Netscape 7 continue to rise. Mozilla's global usage share has increased with 0.4 percent from 0.4 percent to 0.8 percent. The global usage share of Netscape 7 has increased with 0.2 percent from 0.3 to 0.5 percent. Microsoft's IE 6 is currently the leading browser on the web. Microsoft's IE 6 global usage has increased with 5.9 percent from 46.4 percent to 52.3 percent. Microsoft dominates the browser market with a total global usage share of 94.9 percent. Netscape, part of AOL has a total global usage share of 3 percent. The most popular browsers on the web are: · 1. Microsoft IE 6.0 52.3% 2. Microsoft IE 5.5 20.9% 3. Microsoft IE 5.0 19.7% 4. Netscape Navigator 4.0 1.2% 5. Microsoft IE 4.0 1.0% 6. Opera 6.0 0.8% 7. Mozilla 1 0.8% · Companies with the largest total global usage shares on the web are: · 1. Microsoft IE 94.9% 2. Netscape Navigator 3.0% 3. Opera 0.9% onestat.com Screen Resolution I found this one interesting and it surprised me. June 26, 2004: OneStat.com ..., today reported that more and more internet users choose for screen resolution 1024 x 768 which is the most popular screen resolution for exploring the internet. The screen resolution 1024 x 768 has reached an all time high and has risen from 46.1 percent to 48.3 percent. Users with monitors set to the most common resolution 800 x 600 for web sites have an approximate 31.7 percent global usage share. The finding has important implications for web site designers because most web sites are designed for a screen resolution of 800 x 600 pixels. ... The most popular screen resolutions on the web in the world are: 1. 1024 x 768 48.3% 2. 800 x 600 31.7% 3. 1280 x 1024 13.6% 4. 1152 x 864 4.0% 5. 640 x 480 1.0% 6. 1600 x 1200 1.0% 7. 1152 x 870 0.2% onestat.com Best, - Eric@lemmingsunited.org -