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To: Don Earl who wrote (1981)	10/2/2004 1:15:27 PM
From: Eric L	Respond to of 6035

What version of Netscape 3 and Netscape 4? Don, << I didn't mean to get way off topic on "What's my favorite browser." >> That wasn't the topic, and the question was, what Netscape version are you using, which you have not yet supplied, and to what degree does the owner of this site and his admin have to go to provide backward compatibility with a multitude of browsers, and which ones. You have established that you are using a technologically obsolete browser, but you still haven't bothered to advise the people you are asking for assistance, (and criticizing) and individuals like Ron, Bill and Dave who have tried to assist you, what specific version of same you are using. You simply have FINALLY advised that you are using Netscape 3 and Netscape 4. Hopefully your Netscape 4 version is at least Netscape 4.74 and ideally 4.8. If your DPE is not as technologically obsolete as your browser, you would be well advised to upgrade to Netscape 7.1 or 7.2 (if you are Netscape bound), or alternatively Opera or Mozilla if you want to avoid the Microsoft bloat or paranoia. If your DPE is as technologically obsolete as your browser, and you have any reliance on it, you would be well advised to replace it. Bob and Dave are rather accommodating individuals but they might be wise to post a polite notice on this site similar to this one which is rather commonplace these days: Note to Netscape v4.* users: this website has been designed with style-sheets. Old browsers, like Netscape older than version 5, do not display these stylesheets correctly. Please consider upgrading to a newer browser. New versions of Netscape (version 7 or higher) can be downloaded here: channels.netscape.com Other suggested browsers: Mozilla, Opera or Internet Explorer << Actually, Netscape 4 would be closer to 6 years old. >> Netscape 4.0B1 was released almost 8 years ago in December 1996 and Netscape 4.0 was publicly released in June 1997, making it 7¼ years old. I'm not a code jockey, but I am a former Netscape beta tester (on behalf of my corporation's "field automation team") dating back to the early 1994 "Mosaic" days and the 16-bit and 1st 32-bit original beta versions of Netscape, and was involved in the testing of each and every beta release from 1.0B1 (November 1994) through the public release of Netscape 4.5 in October 1998 - at which time I personally moved to IE5 which I'd been beta testing from IE beta 3.0x days. Although I never used them other than casually, point releases of 4.x continued for several years beyond 4.5 - and they were essentially bug fixes. You will often see Netscape 4.x referred too as "notoriously buggy." It was that in spades and deserved that characterization ... and while 4.7x ff is about as clean as it is ever gonna get it still has numerous incompatibilities with todays websites and if you are gonna use it you need to adjust to that fact of life, and the fact that this particular site has finally entered the 21st century. << Netscape 3 will download pages at least 4 times faster than any browser built in the last 5 years. >> It probably will. Netscape 3.04 Standard (as opposed to Gold) could probably be described as the last great Netscape. Can't say as I blame you for keeping a copy on hand. << Spyware, most trojan programs and the latest and greatest viruses are all incompatible with the "obsolete" browsers. >> I think you are laboring under a delusion. Luddites, regardless of their browser persuasion, have been favorite targets of malware authors, and hopefully you are protecting yourself with AV/AS/AA software with up to date definitions and a firewall. << It's been ages since the last time I had to reformat my hard drive to cure some malevolent code picked up online. >> I've been using personal computers since 1982 (online with a UNIX shell account since 83) and have never had to resort to reformatting a hard drive to "cure some malevolent code picked up online," but then again, I do practice safe computing, keep software current, and keep several utility suites handy. As a matter of fact, since partition managers were born - Partition Magic in my case - I haven't reformatted a drive other than at end of life after a wipe, simply partitioned or repartitioned them. << Both display black backgrounds using "obsolete" browsers. Once logged in, the problem goes away. >> Good. Can you stay logged in on whichever is your fav? Best, - Eric -