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To: Ilaine who wrote (74537)	10/3/2004 12:32:21 AM
From: kumar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793964

so we won that war I'd say we won that battle. The war is far from over, to announce victory. if they want to strap on a bomb and blow each other up, we can't stop them In my books your dad is right. Wasted effort for us to try stop them. We can take measures to help ensure that we are not the victims, but thats about it. Theres no guarantee we will succeed. Same situation in Israel/Palestine, Kashmir, Chechnya, Indonesia...

To: Ilaine who wrote (74537)	10/3/2004 12:49:35 AM
From: Gut Trader	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793964

Stephen Ambrose points out what made WW2 a winner was "unconditional surrender". In Taking "Berlin" in WII we let the Russians lose 100k soldiers before we walked in. Japan, firebombing Tokyo and a couple of Nukes forced capitulation without having to take it by hand. Americas collective consciousness is not equipped to handle what needs to be done.....Yet. GT@Need Big Carrot or Bigger stick .com

To: Ilaine who wrote (74537)	10/3/2004 3:07:55 PM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793964

I wish Bush would explain clearly that we did beat Saddam, we beat the Iraqi army, so we won that war . We all agree OBL and AQ attacked us. We all agree we are in a WOT. We all agree we have committments to Israel and that Israel has to be protected from attack. We all agree that nuclear proliferation is a big threat. We all agree Saddam Hussein is an evil and vile person. He did terrible things to his own people. He wished us harm. We also have an X amount of money, resources, and man power. It is a finite number. If you had it to all over again, would you spend that much money, resources, and man power on Iraq? I'm guessing, I am like your father and sister. We did not go to law school. We respect you for all the reading you have done all your life. We respect you for going to law school, earning a degree, passing the bar, and practising law - but we can't understand your committment to George W Bush and his defense of his Iraqi policy - especially knowing what we know now. If you saw George W Bush during the debate, if your judgement had not been pre-determined - you would have seen an emperor with no clothes - so to speak. He was exposed for all to see. He did not seem to be in command of the issues that he says he is working so hard on. It did not seem like he could talk for even two minutes on any of these subjects.