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To: Brumar89 who wrote (27132)	10/5/2004 1:08:09 AM
From: CalculatedRisk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Don't forget that France and Germany were two of the first countries to help us in Afghanistan. Too bad we didn't follow through appropriately; not only are warlords in charge in most of Afghanistan, with the Taliban creeping back onto the scene, but the drug trade is now stronger than ever. Post-Invasion Chaos Blamed for Drug Surge news.yahoo.com Another Bush failure.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (27132)	10/5/2004 2:59:30 AM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Two people and a corrupt regime? That's not convincing. It is more of an international effort in Afghanistan. Why shouldn't it be? The world was with us after 911. We have to choose: 1. We're the last remaining superpower (which I think is total bs) so we take the lead in the world. In Bush's world we go several steps further and ignore the world and expect everyone to kowtow to us. 2. We're part of the community of nations and we rely on our allies and treat them as sovereign nations with minds of their own. Diplomacy, negotiation, carrots, sticks and actual SKILL is required to get them to do what we need them to do. =========== You're still thinking in black and white. ELECTIONS in and of themselves are not democracy. So what if there are elections in Iraq under Saddam? They were obviously meaningless. Afghanistan has an entire set of problems decades in the making. It isn't that they're having elections, it's that Bush is saying that elections mean that Afghanistan is somehow cured of all the things that ailed it. That's such a lie. Bush also says the same of Iraq. It's the simpleton's way out of a mess he cannot fix. Have an election, declare democracy, declare victory and blame all that follows on the new government. It's politics. It's not reality. I don't object to democracy anywhere, who the heck does other than right-wingers like Bush who openly favor autocracy?