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To: GST who wrote (147016)10/6/2004 6:20:35 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
<Taiwan offically does represent itself as a soverign nation state>

It most certainly does not


Yes it does. It tries to get representation of itself as the legitimate government of all of China, that fact that it fails at this doesn't mean it is not representing itself as the government of a soverign nation state.

nor is it recognized as such by other countries

From the begining I said Taiwan was indepedent in terms of facts on the ground, not in terms of offical recognition. If the rest of the world refused to recognize the USA as an idependnet country we wouldn't return to British rule.

The US does NOT recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation state

Was the PRC not a soverign government before Nixon's visit?

and Taiwan does not claim to be one.

It claims to be a soverign state who's territory includes Bejing, Shanghai and Hong Kong.

Once again you try to blur the distinction between a nation and a state. A state is a political entity that controls teritory. A soverign state is such an entity that doesn't answer to a higher government. Taiwan's government controls Taiwan and it doesn't answer to or take orders from a higher government. This is true even if there is one Chinese nation.

Tim