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To: abuelita who wrote (58603)	10/5/2004 10:32:31 PM
From: coug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

<<is it what americans want to hear?>> Not from this American, a REAL old time American.. I want to hear about America LEADING the free world with their SUPPORT.. By SETTING an EXAMPLE, BY NEGOTIATION, BY DIPLOMACY, etc. AND I want to hear the TRUTH...... Bull Shit Talks.. The Truth Walks.. I didn't hear or see it tonight, or last Thursday, for the last 3 1/2 plus years FROM CHENEY etal... It's time for a change, to try something new, at least a NEW baby step in the progressive direction.... c

To: abuelita who wrote (58603)	10/5/2004 10:34:16 PM
From: Crocodile	Respond to of 89467

what bothers me a lot though, is the 'killing' talk ... we will 'kill' terrorists, etc., when the term terrorists has yet to be defined. yup. I was thinking the same thing while listening to the debate earlier tonight. Both sides. I'm pretty sure I heard Cheney say something about Afghanistan like, "We've already killed thousands of terrorists so far." You know, this is something that has really begun to bug me about the whole Iraq and terrorist thing. If police drove around big cities gunning down people who "looked like crooks", or blowing up houses where it appeared that gunfire might be coming from, I don't think this would be tolerated for long -- in any society. I just don't know what to think anymore. I think that too many innocent people are being blown away in the "quest" to rack up tallies of dead terrorists. I was reading one news story this morning about how the army was handing out "condolence pay" to Iraqis who had lost family members, had serious injuries, or had their houses destroyed. I think they had handed out about 400K this week. Well, that's all very nice, but it doesn't endear you with a people to offer a few bucks after blowing someone's house up, or accidentally killing a few relatives. One thing that I think people don't contemplate enough is that the death of any individual is much like a pebble dropped into a quiet pool. The pebble doesn't make all that much of a splash, but the rings which it creates ripple out to touch the whole pool. I was reminded of this a few weeks ago when one of my husband's young co-workers died suddenly in a traffic accident. The repercussions from that one death had such an effect on his family, friends, and all of his co-workers. It would not be stretching things to say that, for that one death, there were at least 50 people who were powerfully effected. Think of all of the deaths of Iraqis.. and the deaths of American soldiers, then multiply them by at least 50x... and you begin to understand the impact which this war is having on the population of both Iraq and the United States..... Yes, indeed, too much talk of "killing"...