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To: GST who wrote (147096)10/6/2004 11:20:32 AM
From: Keith Feral  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
The real damage to our national security took place during the time period building up to 911. Bush inherited whatever security risks took place. During the 8 previous years, we had the beloved Clinton in office. He did not do a damn thing about terrorism. There was no US policy against Al Quaeda and no one knew they existed until Bush spoke out against the terrorist group after 911. Why did the terrorists come after the US so the day that Osama Bin Laden was to be tried in NYC in a mock trial? 8 years in office and all Clinton managed to do about this Osama was to put forward a mock trial that set the stage for one of the biggest nightmares of our time. Oh yeah, oil was only $25 a barrel back then. With oil prices doubling since the bombings, do you think the Saudi government is sad to be increasing oil supplies at $50 a barrel?

Western idealism is so impressionable. Why doesn't anyone suggest the fact that the Middle East sponsored terrorism against the US to start a war that would lead to a global redistribution of wealth so that OPEC could get a better price for a barrel of oil. I humbly submit the fact that US policy in the Middle East is directed by the interests of the terrorists. It makes perfect sense to me that the governments let the religious fervor of the terrorist get out of control so that they can let market fear dictate better pricing for their natural resources.

<done so much damage to our national secirty>
Our national security has yet to be challenged, so I can't imagine how you can suggest that Bush has not reinforced the security in this country. People like Cat Stevens cannot even make it into this country without being ejected. I have to take off my shoes at the airport. Public humiliation is a common standard for people in the US at the expense of national security.

If this is the case as I expect, it was important for the US to grab as much control of the Middle East as possible. People may not appreciate the high social costs of war, but we are dealing with ruthless people bomb our cities to make us pay more for their oil. The terrorists may think they are fighting a religious war, but the financial support from Saudi based charities is offered so that their jihad increases political risks. Ultimately, responsible governments in Saudi Arabi would not permit religous warfare to perpetuate anywhere in the country unless they stood to gain from the insanity of their fatwas and jihad. Indeed, it is the exogenous effect they have on the financial markets which has fueled the price of oil to record highs. Meanwhile, they have all of the people in the US screaming at Bush because he cannot put an end of the conflict fast enough.

<losing the goodwill and respect of the rest of the world>
That is an outrageous allegation. The people that hate the US are the same lunatics that packed a handful of terrorists on 4 planes and sent them into to destroy America. I don't think they had any respect for us in the first place. Do you? As for the French, they have cracked down just as harshly on Muslims we have US. They are the ones with all of the special food contracts with Iraq before the invasion. Russia and France were protecting their financial interests. I doubt that Russia would not support the decision at this point.

I think it is treachorous for this country to walk arounnd with this anti Bush swagger. I cannot begin to fathom the eternal negativity of this country's liberalism. It is mean spirited, intellectual propoganda suggests that we should always apologize for our actions. Our enemies exploit the weakness of our idealism to restrain our policy from encouraging the full potential of our military.

How many people in Iraq are dying at the hands of US forces at this point? How many people are dying at the hands of terrorists that are being provided with bombs from Islamic charities?