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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: trouthead who wrote (18577)	10/6/2004 2:57:01 PM
From: Orcastraiter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

They just keep repeating the lies of their comrades...until they believe the lies themselves. Ever wonder why the Vietnamese were given the name gooks? Part of a dehumanizing process...to enable the killer instinct to come to the forefront. Orca

To: trouthead who wrote (18577)	10/6/2004 9:56:44 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

"You quote other posts on SI!!???" They are links to my own posts, which in turn cite source material. Often the link to the source material can be found at the end of my post. "Here is the actual testimony." Actually, you only listed a small part of Kerry's false testimony before congress. When you read all of his testimony, & compare it to reality, there is no doubt he lied & lied repeatedly. And he included himself among those who witnessed the alleged "war crimes"...... Kerry also said all of the following....... Vietnam Veterans Against the War: Statement by John Kerry to the Senate Committee of Foreign Relations April 23, 1971 etsu.edu ....."We who have come here to Washington have come here because we feel we have to be winter soldiers now. We could come back to this country; we could be quiet; we could hold our silence; we could not tell what went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this country, the fact that the crimes threaten it, not reds, and not redcoats but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, that we have to speak out.".... ...."We saw Vietnam ravaged equally by American bombs as well as by search and destroy missions, as well as by Vietcong terrorism, and yet we listened while this country tried to blame all of the havoc on the Viet Cong. We rationalized destroying villages in order to save them. We saw America lose her sense of morality as she accepted very coolly a My Lai and refused to give up the image of American soldiers who hand out chocolate bars and chewing gum. We learned the meaning of free fire zones, shooting anything that moves, and we watched while America placed a cheapness on the lives of orientals.". ....the hypocrisy in our taking umbrage at the Geneva Conventions and using that as justification for a continuation of this war when we are more guilty than any other body of violations of those Geneva Conventions; in the use of free fire zones, harassment interdiction fire, search and destroy missions, the bombings, the torture of prisoners, all accepted policy by many units in South Vietnam. That is what we are trying to say. It is part and parcel of everything.... And when interviewed about his testimony, Kerry siad the following....... richmond.edu "There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used .50 caliber machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against the people," Kerry said. "I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages…"....