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Politics : John Kerrys Crimes & Lies -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: American Spirit who wrote (150)	10/6/2004 5:08:43 PM
From: PROLIFE	Respond to of 1905

let's keep score here...so far, three vets are liars...and you called Kerry and Edwards liars too...is there anyone but you telling the truthj out there, puta??? ROFL!!!!!!

To: American Spirit who wrote (150)	10/6/2004 5:09:41 PM
From: PROLIFE	Respond to of 1905

"During Lt.(jg) Kerry's tour, he was under my command for two or three specific operations, before his rapid exit. Trust, loyalty and judgment are the key, operative words. His turncoat performance in 1971 in his grubby shirt and his medal-tossing escapade, coupled with his slanderous lines in the recent book portraying us that served, including all POWs and MIAs, as murderous war criminals, I believe, will have a lasting effect on all military veterans and their families. Kerry would be described as devious, self-absorbing, manipulative, disdain for authority, disruptive, but the most common phrase that you'd hear is 'requires constant supervision.'" -- Captain Charles Plumly, USN (retired)

To: American Spirit who wrote (150)	10/6/2004 5:15:27 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Respond to of 1905

If you support Kerry you are good. If you change your view of him, you become a liar (or jsut a flip flopper).

To: American Spirit who wrote (150)	10/6/2004 5:58:24 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1905

What's the matter amspit? No more funny posts from you about how honest you are?? Does that mean you agree that you do lie and you know Kerry and Edwards lies too???

To: American Spirit who wrote (150)	10/7/2004 8:07:59 AM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1905

Ask Aunt Sophie Dear Aunt Sophie, I did it! I was brilliant! I’m talking about the presidential debate the other night. I assume you saw it. I’m told most people were watching and I would say offhand that anyone who didn’t watch doesn’t take his American citizenship very seriously. I know that despite what the polls say, most people are either voting for me or are undecided and leaning toward me. How could it be otherwise? I really let him have it. Of course, debating him is like taking bonbons from a bébé. That’s why I love these debates. I’m going to cut through him like a swift boat whizzing up the Mecong. I was really at my best. Everyone said so. But there was just one little thing that marred the whole experience for me. I wonder if you noticed. Teresa did, and I wish she had told me before I went on air. It was the nail on my ring finger - it was too long. I’ve heard that Fox News posted a piece in which Carl Cameron quoted me as having said my nails were great, then they said it was a joke that mistakenly made it to the news site. But if that’s so, how come it was so close to what actually happened? This is something for my investigators. Are the Bush people taping my pillow talk? What actually happened was that I told Teresa I thought my nails were great and she pointed out that the ring finger nail was a little longer than the others. It spoiled the whole evening for me. She could have waited a few weeks to talk about it. I’m sure Jean Pierre would have corrected it at my next manicure and it never would have become an issue. But what happened instead was that I was so hurt by her criticism that I lashed out at her. I’m ashamed to admit it, but I told her I didn’t think her last Botox injection had quite cut it. I realize that wasn’t very nice, and wasn’t even true since the man is an artist with the tox, but I couldn’t just let it pass. I had to say something. And from there it escalated. One thing led to another and pretty soon she was yelling at me that she thinks her hair is just as important as mine and then it degenerated into a foreign policy free-for-all (she thinks we should buy a home on the Riviera and I think it would look bad not to wait until after the start of my second term. I realize I’d told her it was OK before I told her it wasn’t, but you’d think she wouldn’t have brought it up again right after a debate.) Isn’t it amazing how little things can touch off a really nasty fight? Well, if she really wants the place on the Riviera there’s no way I can stop her, but I do hope she’ll reconsider. The average voter probably can’t identify with that too easily. In the meantime, did you notice the nail, too or were you concentrating on my tie? JFK too Dear JFK too, From my point of view, it’s not the nails, it’s the hair that needs the real work. Most Americans can’t spend $700. on a haircut and don’t like to be reminded of that fact every time they look at their president. You should definitely check out Super Cuts. I’m happy to learn that you can be unequivocal at home. Telling your wife to wait to buy the pad on the Riviera shows real leadership. Unfortunately, most people will never know that you put your foot down unless you tell them, so I think you should find a way to work this into your next important speech. The people are waiting to see you at your principled best. While you’re at it, you should also let them know that you’ve sold the SUV’s, or better yet, donated them to an environmental charity like the Earth Liberation Front. That would demonstrate your concern for the planet. You could make the announcement during the next debate. It would be a dramatic high point and would undoubtedly undercut your opponent, who seems to think the earth is not a museum. I also wish you’d explain your foreign policy a little better during the debate instead of leaving your policy discussions for the chambre à coucher. It isn’t enough just to say you’ll ask “may I?” at the UN every time you want to chase down the murderers of enough Americans to populate a small town. It would be much better to illustrate, using actual examples of how helpful that august body is when it isn’t fleecing the New York taxpayer to cover its parking fines. For example, you could give a précis of all its peace-keeping triumphs during its longer-than-necessary existence - like the fact that there have only been some 80-plus wars since it put itself in charge of maintaining world harmony. As for the cooperation we always get from la France, you might remind voters of the way nos amies galliques facilitated our bombing of Libya by forbidding us to fly over their territory, thus assuring our pilots of a mission with a frisson of danger rather than the safe but boring raid it might have been. If I were you, I wouldn’t worry too much about your nails except to consider asking Jean Pierre to try a semi-gloss finish next time. By Judith Weizner FrontPageMagazine.com \| October 7, 2004

To: American Spirit who wrote (150)	10/7/2004 8:15:26 AM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1905

KERRY LIED When John Kerry testified to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971 that American troops in Vietnam were ravaging the country with widespread atrocities, it was based on a pack of lies. I know, because I told some of those lies after Kerry coached me on what to say. I was wounded in 1969 and when well enough to walk and return to the US I was spit on, ridiculed and had feces thrown at my uniform. I was mad at my country for sending me to a war it was not committed to win and bitter at being vilified for serving my country. After discharge from the Army I met a representative of “Vietnam Veterans Against the War.” He wore jungle fatigues, spoke like a Vietnam veteran and held out a hand of friendship, a kind of Vietnam era VFW. I joined, not knowing they were radicals. After several VVAW meetings my recruiter said we were needed in a Detroit meeting called Winter Soldier to support members recounting bad experiences in Vietnam, and there would be a free concert. I rode to Detroit with John Kerry and others in a freezing cold van. While Kerry was interested in atrocities, I hoped to meet pretty women. In Detroit Kerry pressed me to testify but I told him I didn’t see any atrocities in Vietnam. They needed me for their purpose because I was one of the few present who had been in combat. During a break, John Kerry and some moderators surrounded me. Kerry said, “I need you to say you saw war crimes and atrocities in Vietnam.” Others said “Come on man, the brothers need you!” and “Don’t you want to help save lives in Vietnam?” Someone whispered in my ear “It’s a long walk back to Baltimore.” I reluctantly agreed to say something, and Kerry said “OK, we’re going to have a dialogue with you recorded before you go out there. I need you to talk about the beating of civilians and enemy personnel.” Kerry coached me to “Specify indiscriminate artillery on villages, racism, brutality and rape.” He said he’d help me with specifics. When the camera came on, Kerry asked “What brings you here to Detroit?” Was he kidding? I felt betrayed, I tried to evade by mumbling how hard that was to answer and I felt a strong desire to leave. But I didn’t. Following Kerry’s prompting I told false stories, a rambling bunch of generalities sprinkled with references to racism, atrocities, and an organized underground in country, along with some half-truths to please the mob. When it was over I went on with my life, rejoined the military, and buried VVAW as a dark memory. When I later discovered Kerry had been meeting with the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong in Paris and repeating their talking points in the US while our boys were still dying, I was sick at having helped him. I have noted the backlash against veterans who speak out against Kerry now that he wants to be President. Many call it dirty politics. But it makes no difference to me whether Kerry is a Democrat or Republican; this is a matter of keeping faith with my country. Whatever you say about me, I now must tell the truth about Kerry and about myself. Recently in Washington DC a group of Vietnam vets held a rally. At the last minute I was given a few moments to speak to the crowd of thousands. I nervously stepped up on the stage, gripped the podium with shaking hands and as I confessed to the crowd what I had done long ago I could see anger on their faces. But when I asked them to forgive me, I heard someone shout "You're already forgiven!" I saw aging veterans, wives and their adult children standing in the sun with tears on their faces. There were also smiles. From these people I felt closure, my dark conscience brightened. As I stepped off the stage, many lined up to shake my hand and hug me, and I was overwhelmed. I failed those I owed the most loyalty long ago. That’s my fault, not John Kerry’s. But Kerry did use me, and he knowingly used lies to denounce a generation of fine American troops. Kerry played on people’s fears to gain his own political advantage 33 years ago, no matter the danger to our troops. He’s doing the same thing again today. This time it’s Iraq. ---------- Steve Pitkin Boca Raton, Florida

To: American Spirit who wrote (150)	12/10/2005 7:21:58 PM
From: TideGlider	Respond to of 1905

You shouldn't call real American Naval heroes "Liars"..... Hoffman is a liar. He used to campaign for Kerry calling him a big hero. He changed his story. So what if he supports Bush, doesn't mean he has to manufacture lies about his finest SWiftBoat officer?

To: American Spirit who wrote (150)	12/10/2005 8:11:09 PM
From: Gersh Avery	Respond to of 1905

I see that you came back ..

To: American Spirit who wrote (150)	12/10/2005 8:39:42 PM
From: TideGlider	Respond to of 1905

So9me apparent gay posters just love Kerry.

To: American Spirit who wrote (150)	12/11/2005 9:12:01 AM
From: tonto	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1905

Right, Kerry is not a big hero, he never should have said that. Hoffman is a liar. He used to campaign for Kerry calling him a big hero. He changed his story.

To: American Spirit who wrote (150)	12/11/2005 9:50:28 AM
From: TideGlider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1905

Lieberman's pro-war views stir Democratic concerns on 2006 (Washington-AP, Dec. 10, 2005 11:30 AM) _ Senator Joe Lieberman isn't winning any friends in Democratic circles with his staunch support of President Bush's Iraq policies. Some Democratic colleagues see him as undercutting their party's efforts to take control of Congress from the G-O-P next fall. U-Conn professor Ken Dautrich says Lieberman's pro-war views are damaging the ability of Democrats to wage a national campaign. He says that's frustrating for people trying to craft a Democratic strategy. Democrats think Bush is vulnerable on the war, so they want to use it against him in 2006. They're hoping to win the House back after 12 years of Republican control. But Lieberman is veering far from the Democratic script. His vocal support for the war has opponents in Connecticut talking about a challenge. Former Governor Lowell Weicker has already said he might run against Lieberman if no one else does.