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Politics : The American Spirit Vs. The Rightwing -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: American Spirit who wrote (1372)	10/6/2004 9:36:29 PM
From: TopCat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1904

>>>No, it's illegal. Preachers aren't allowed to tell people who to vote for. Very much against the law.<<< Then you won't mind pointing me to a reference to that law. I'd be very interested in reading it.

To: American Spirit who wrote (1372)	10/6/2004 9:42:09 PM
From: mph	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1904

Now there is a complete lie....... You're always asking for examples. That's one huge whopper. It's also dumb as dirt, I'm afraid.

To: American Spirit who wrote (1372)	10/7/2004 12:02:15 AM
From: Glenn Petersen	Respond to of 1904

By your definition, both Kerry and African-American ministers are breaking the law. Why don't you just admit that you are wrong. Come on, be a Mensch. Busted by CNN: cnnstudentnews.cnn.com WOODRUFF: John Kerry is actively seeking African-American support, among others. The senator attended services in Cleveland here yesterday and is meeting with black clergy in Philadelphia this hour. Kerry hopes to gain ground from the tradition of African- American ministers taking to the pulpit and urging their flocks to vote. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) (voice-over): Morning dawns at the Mount Sinai Baptist Church in Cleveland, Ohio. People drift in seeking spiritual guidance. REV. C. JAY MATTHEWS, MOUNT SINAI BAPTIST CHURCH: So, if you want to be rescued, it's in your hands. WOODRUFF: And information. Here, parishioners clutch Bibles in one hand, campaign fans in the other. And preaching is infused with politics... MATTHEWS: Now that we've registered people to vote, we've got four weeks to get people out to vote. WOODRUFF: ... just as worship is with song. The Reverend C. Jay Matthews continues an African-American tradition more than a century old: using the pulpit as his bully pulpit. MATTHEWS: Between the ages of 16 to 65, 40 percent of black males in this country are unemployed. Why should we vote? WOODRUFF: The message: We don't have much, but we do have a voice. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whatever white man is run running, you got to know you got to come by me in order to get to the White House. WOODRUFF: In most black churches, politics flows from a homegrown theology of liberation. MATTHEWS: God is a god who raises up and empowers the oppressed to become empowered eventually to stand free and liberated, both from sin and from the hostility of the environment. WOODRUFF: The marriage of religion and politics is a big theme this year. Take the political revival among conservative whites evangelicals. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sadly, there's a voice within Christian churches across America. WOODRUFF: They share something special with black Baptists, like those who worship at Mount Zion. More than other religious groups, these two feel that God has a role in government. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bible is a life instruction booklet, you know, God made us. And this is his booklet to us to let us know how to live. WOODRUFF: But the difference is one of emphasis. In Harrisburg's Word of Grace Church, gay marriage and abortion are major concerns. Not so here in Cleveland. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The main issue now is to make sure that the economic conditions get better -- which we have hope for that, because I don't think it can get too much worse than what it is right now. WOODRUFF: So, while African-American Baptists and conservative white evangelicals share many views on social issues, these are not the ones that guide black voters. Why not? An answer found in another Cleveland church. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have to be faithful to the world as we experience it. They're trying to respond to the world as they experience it. WOODRUFF: And those experiences are quite different. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A social issue like school prayer or school vouchers or anything like that is not paramount if you're unemployed, if you don't have health insurance... WOODRUFF: And so, white conservative Christians lean Republican, while black Baptists cleave to the Democrats, traveling down two paths with the same guide. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm waiting on the Lord. I know I'm going to make it, because he's faithful. (END VIDEOTAPE) WOODRUFF (on camera): Part of the story of this campaign. Well, that's it for INSIDE POLITICS this Monday from Cleveland, Ohio, the site of tomorrow night's vice presidential debate. I'm Judy Woodruff.