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To: trouthead who wrote (18672)10/7/2004 5:20:31 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 90947
 
"List of attrocities:

1. Shootings in free-fire zones.

2. Harassment and interdiction fire.

3. Using .50 caliber machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against the people

4. Taking part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages."


MR. KERRY: ....All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Convention and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free-fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off on the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals.....

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....That is an outright defamatory lie. The South Vietnamese National Government had established and promulgated well-defined coastal-control zones to facilitate surveillance, illegal activity, and infiltration of enemy arms from seaward. Although our Swift Boats and Coast Guard cutters did diligently enforce the restricted areas, a boat or ship violating a restricted zone would not be fired upon unless attempting to escape inspection, and only after proper warning in accordance with U.S. Navy strict rules of engagement.

Kerry repeatedly embellishes this lie by referring to "U.S. designated free-fire zones,"
implying that such zones authorized indiscriminate killing, in order to portray the U.S. military as unwanted, brutish conquerors in Vietnam. In truth, free-fire zones fell within the normal rules of engagement and authorized not an order to fire but discretion to fire first if threatened by, or when confronting, enemy forces.
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He (Kerry) spoke about “Free Fire Zones” and how we murdered innocent civilians in them. Every Soldier I ever met in Vietnam from Private to General knew we moved all civilians to “New Life Hamlets” before any area was declared a “Free Fire Zone.” Only John and his “Band of Brothers” seem to have missed the point. That Army Officers, including Generals, would stand beside anyone making such claims brings dishonor on themselves. They are not the men we were made to believe they were back then.

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....Tom Wright, another PCF commander, talks about Kerry and “free-fire” zones. “We believe that “free-fire” zones placed the greatest responsibilty on the OinC because he alone had to decide if he was going to shoot. In other areas, the ROE (Rules of Engagement) told you what to do. John Kerry thought that a “free-fire” zone meant “kill anyone you see....”. Not every person is a good combat commander. John Kerry was not a good combat commander.

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...."Kerry seemed to believe that there were no rules in a free-fire zone, and you were supposed to kill everyone,".... The evidence shows John Kerry was a ruthless operator in the field, with little regard for life. One example is the sampan incident in An Thoi in January 1969.....

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