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To: Bruce L who wrote (147474)10/9/2004 11:26:39 AM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
He'll tell you whatever he thinks is bet for you to hear.....just like that flipflopper Kerry.....



To: Bruce L who wrote (147474)10/9/2004 12:33:38 PM
From: Bruce L  Respond to of 281500
 
Note: I posted my reactions to the Bush-Kerry debates on another thread that I thought some might enjoy.

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Re : The Presidential Debate in Town Hall Format

Mary Lou:

You asked me for my reaction to an article by an obviously unsympathetic critic of President Bush. The points made by the critic and my reaction follow:

1. Bush' Refusal to Acknowledge Specific Mistakes. I agree. This was my biggest disappointment in his performance last night. As you know, I am not an uncritical admirer of the President's Administration. The most relevent to you is the manner that WE attempted to occupy Iraq. Of course, I could say that it is unclear how personally involved he was with these occupation decisions, but since it happened on his watch, he definitely SHOULD have acknowledged the mistakes in this regard.

On the other hand, Mary Lou, remember this: THE HABITS OF EMPIRE ARE NOT INNATELY AMERICAN. And I would acknowledge some truth to the unargued (g) thesis of my Brother Ed, that the Islamic World is particularly raw about strangers and their gifts - and their presence!

2. Bush's Answer Re Importation of Drugs From Canada. I acknowledge that the President was not persuasive (TO ME) on this issue, but that is because I am unalterably opposed on practical economic and social grounds to ever allowing such an importation. The "safety" issue is a phoney objection, I agree.

WOULD YOU BE SO KIND AS TO ADVANCE WHAT YOU FEEL ARE YOUR GROUNDS FOR ALLOWING THIS IMPORTATION? I will then respond.

The rest of the objections to Bush I found spurious and unconvincing being generally unsupported by any facts or argument.

ON THE WHOLE THEN, Mary Lou, you will be unhappy to learn that I was immensely pleased with President Bush's performance last night. He was articulate and animated; Kerry, on the other hand, in many instances, altogether avoided the questions -so as to start on his repetitive "speaking" points - and generally seemed tired and uninspiring.

ONE SYMPTOM OF "CONSERVATIVES" FOR WHICH I AM VERY PROUD, is that we can rehearse our differences in public. The "left", OTOH, is overly anxious to present a facade of spurious "unity", and is meager - to say the least -in its reluctance to concede anything which might redound to the credit of President Bush.

Your friend,

Bruce



To: Bruce L who wrote (147474)10/9/2004 4:15:59 PM
From: Michael Watkins  Respond to of 281500
 
So can you tell us that you go regularly to church/synagogue? I thought not.

Bruce:

Whether I do or do not is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

For the record I was born and raised a Catholic but spend far more time with Anglicans these days. Its the community and individual faith which is more important to me than dogma or a specific theology.



To: Bruce L who wrote (147474)10/10/2004 11:06:24 AM
From: jttmab  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
So can you tell us that you go regularly to church/synagogue?

I'm not sure what that might mean. I recently heard of an old business acquantance that is/was very active at his place of worship. Which wasn't why he made the news. He made the news because he pleaded guilty to child molestation.

He was active in his place of worship at the time the charges were made. I'm not sure whether he's still active after he pleaded guilty. I doubt it.

jttmab