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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: SiouxPal who wrote (52212)	10/9/2004 11:41:21 PM
From: techguerrilla	Respond to of 81568

Sioux, you say: "[Howard] bought into Bush's lies, but so did I. I believed what Bush was putting down to me about WMDs, the connection to 9/11, and I even believed Bush about the nuclear weapons." Very interesting. I didn't know you had once been duped too. I found Saddam to be as odious as anyone around. I had believed him to be as despicable as anyone on the planet for years. I was all for the Guld War. I wanted Bush's father to go after him in 1991 and was appalled when Saddam reconsolidated his power after Bush's father let him off the hook. Weapons of mass destruction? Nuclear weapons? We were so afraid of them, weren't we? That was why sanctions, no fly zones, and inspection processes were set up. Saddam was made into a toothless tiger. But then came September 11, 2001. Our fears over weapons of mass destruction intensified. I was disgusted from the start the way Bush manipulated the Twin Towers attack. It probably helped that I thought he was an ass while he was Governor of Texas. Being a devout opponent of the death penalty, I followed his commitment to the death penalty during the late 1990s. I have been a major opponent of all actions by Bush for many, many years. He is nothing short of a worthless punk and an extremely distinguished American, John Kerry, is getting ready to kick his ass out of the White House. Bush didn't establish any sort of international consensus to go after Saddam. We did not have the economic stability to engage in such a costly misadventure. Cutting taxes on the top 1% of Americans, putting the cost of the war on VISA, and stretching the national debt beyond human comprehension has been lunacy. Bush is a total jerk. He criticizes Kerry for planning serious spending programs that benefit all Americans. The only kind of spending in which Bush engages is military spending. The irony is that he doesn't even pay for it. Put it on my VISA. I was very concerned about Kerry's strange approach to the hideous war in Iraq. It all culminated in his bizarre statement that he would have given Bush authorization to invade Iraq even had he known back then that there were no weapons of mass destruction. But Kerry has a good sense for the public's temperature and only recently have events in Iraq become so bad that Kerry can attack Bush with clarity on that issue. He is now doing so and he is quite eloquent. I'm quite confident that the man who duped you and many others is getting ready to retire to his palace in Crawford, Texas. There will be no Presidential Library. The ass does not read. /john

To: SiouxPal who wrote (52212)	10/10/2004 2:22:02 AM
From: Elroy Jetson	Respond to of 81568

Pro-logging Premier of Tasmania, Paul Lennon, today deflected criticism from within his Australian Labor ranks over his role in the party's electoral defeat in Tasmania. Sydney Morning Herald -- October 10, 2004 smh.com.au Fears of a voter backlash against the federal ALP's forest plan for the island state were realised last night, with the northern seats of Bass and Braddon both claimed by the Liberals. Harry Quick, who retained his southern seat of Franklin, has blamed Mr Lennon and his Government for not supporting federal Labor's forest policy, which was condemned by the state's powerful forestry industry and unions. "By his conspicuous absence, we were left to hang out to dry," Mr Quick said. But Mr Lennon told reporters today it was not the time for retribution or name-calling. "I feel very disappointed today, particularly for Michelle O'Byrne and Sid Sidebottom, two very good federal members of parliament who will unfortunately no longer be there to assist the people of the north-west coast and north of Tasmania," he said. "Also, obviously the loss for Labor last night was pretty devastating - another three years of Coalition government, another three years of Tasmania fighting with Canberra." Asked whether he had blood on his hands over the result, Mr Lennon replied: "I maintain my position all along with federal Labor, that their forest policy was flawed, that it was not going to be a good policy for Tasmania. "It was a decision they took believing that it would result in Green preferences being delivered in marginal seats in mainland Australia. "Quite clearly, from last night, that didn't happen. "But the timber towns in northern Tasmania, in particular, want to protect their jobs. "Harry is obviously disappointed as I am with the result. "But in no way, shape or form can state Labor be held responsible for federal Labor's forest policy. "I spent almost all of this year talking with federal Labor about their forest policy. I urged them to stay true to the Regional Forest Agreement. "Unfortunately, I couldn't convince federal Labor on that policy front." Mr Lennon called for calm over the issue. "Today is not the day for retribution and name calling. I think it would be highly counter productive," he said. "I think Labor needs to sit down in the cold, hard light of day and have a detailed examination of what's happened. Not just in Tasmania but across the country." Mr Lennon said Tasmania overwhelmingly supported Mark Latham's leadership bid and continued to back him as leader. "Just because we have a difference over forest policy doesn't mean that we have a fundamental difference over the core values that Labor stands for," he said. AAP