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To: SI Dave who wrote (22)	10/10/2004 2:20:45 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 39

FAQs are not immutable. They can be changed. I could go with no moderated threads or the previous system. What the proposed system REALLY means is a moderator can have no one on ignore and must constantly monitor his moderated threads. While you may have gotten complaints from pre-bannees in the past, NOW you are hearing from the moderators. We're the people have the cojones to start the threads that get those posts and take the flak for our actions as moderators. There are also numerous threads that have been started with particular POVs and orientations in mind. It seems that for such as these, pre-banning is an entirely legitimate action. Are you suggesting that I don't know the POV to be expected from, say, American Spirit? Frankly, there are people you KNOW are going to be trouble on certain threads and nothing but trouble. Their purpose in appearing on the thread is simply disruption and name calling and nothing else. They contribute nothing. An example? DayTraderKidd on Compendium. He's had 3 chances there and is now out of luck. After the person to be banned has posted. If someone's going to be banned, they should at least get a chance to earn the distinction of making the thread's ban list. Why? See above. Silicon Investor encourages participation, and thread moderators should too as long as the poster is not overly disruptive and conforms to site rules and thread guidelines. That ignores the above. Within the scope of those broad guidelines, ban/unban decisions are at the moderators' discretion. Users who are unsatisfied with a moderator's use of the ban feature should look to other threads on the subject, and can also start a new thread if no suitable alternatives exist. The site admins have the ability to ban/unban on all threads, including non-moderated threads. Banning activity is logged, and moderators found to be egregiously abusing the feature are subject to losing their moderator privileges. So when does ChinuSFO get his silver bullet? I know of no other abuse of moderation power as egregious as his.

To: SI Dave who wrote (22)	10/10/2004 8:42:19 PM
From: jmhollen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39

I would repeat... ..If someone is banned from posting on a board "..NOT STARTED BY SI.." (..i.e.: a Moderated Board started by the efforts of a member from whom SI obviously profits..), the Banee clearly has the option of PM'g the Monitor and asking for reconsideration. If they still don't make the cut, they can obviously whine to SI - who should really butt the hail out - regardless. The Moderator's opinion should be respected. That person started and supports the board - not some periferally uninvolved hall monitor from SI whose primary responsibility is TOS complaints and the pursuit of the ever-evil activities of the permiscuous provocateurs of that inisidious crime - SPAM. If SI is going to continue having the option of Moderated boards, then don't "..force yourself..", like some meddling Arkansas drop-out, upon those boards as a 'Guardian ad Litum' for someone who has clearly been offensive in the past - earning their Ban from their own behavior or harassment. The Banee can, in 10 minutes or so, start his own board on the same subject - where they can bash, wail, whine, bellyache, bitch, issue epithets and innuendo, and make all of the typcially unfounded personal accusations and insults they wish.... And, anyone who is truly interested in their typically bellicose diatribe can boardmark that new board and revel and salivate over all the moosh that is posted there. Obviously, there are very few duplicate boards on SI, so anyone banned from a board has pretty much admitted that they had no real interest in the issue to start with...!!! John .