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To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (60375)10/14/2004 12:11:17 AM
From: Karen Lawrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
In last week's debate Bush said in essence buying drugs from Canada was like buying drugs from a third world country. Tonight, he said the US is working with Canada on the flu shots. He didn't elaborate; I think that's bunk. Clearly, though, if Bush says the reason seniors can't get drugs from Canada is the danger, why's he purportedly planning to outsource manufacture of flu shots there?



To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (60375)10/14/2004 12:22:48 AM
From: abuelita  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
gloopie-

if i understand you correctly,
your concern is not so much that
the united states might be importing
'knock-off' pills from canada, or even
that seniors can get their pills cheaper
in canada as much as it is about
making sure the united states keeps
the rest of the world disease free
in order to protect americans???

is that it, in a nutshell?

i think that the united states and canada
and all first world countries should share
their drug largesse with third world countries,
not only to protect us and ours, but
to raise their standard of health and living
and protect them and theirs. what goes round,
comes around.

i agree, This is about WAY MORE than prices.

-rose



To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (60375)10/14/2004 1:12:00 AM
From: jsinla  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
A further basic is that a prescription dispensed in Canada requires the authority of a Canadian physician with knowledge of the patient. Quite how this is done for residents of the USA and in the numbers bandied about is something of a mystery.

What never seems to occur to people is that the Canadian system is a product of decades of refinement and is geared to the needs of the Canadian population. Demands from outside the system, if they continue, run the risk of jeopardising the distribution and pricing balance that has been achieved, ultimately to the detriment of Canadian residents. But who cares about that when it's just too easy to hop a train or order through edrugs?

If there is a recognised problem within the USA regarding drug pricing, most Canadians (except those profiting from the situation)would be happy to see a made in the USA solution rather than seeing the problem exported. Is that too much to expect?

If the export of Canadian prescription drugs continues to increase, I would expect to see barriers go up preserve the internal operations of the health system.



To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (60375)10/14/2004 1:25:41 AM
From: Proud Deplorable  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
Oh My.......you are really stretching aren't you? I live in Vancouver BC and I suggest that since no deaths have occured, except by an iresponsible FDA that allows your criminal drug companies to put new and experimental drugs on the market under pressure from greedy drug companies who couldn't care less about the trouble the cause as long as they aren't found out, that you are wasting your energy on a non-starter.

Example tonight on Medscape I read a study which suggests that a person with PTSD might gain an addition al 23 minutes of sleep by taking large doses of Clonazepam....YIKES....hey clean up your own backyard before you imply that Canadian drugs are inferior. You implying that ineffective or dangerous drugs are coming through Vancouver is ridiculous. Clonazepam is a dangerous drug of dependance and is now issued on triplicate pads because it is a controlled substance. Funny that it is one of the most prescribed drugs in America...and you have the Nerve to accuse Canadians of trying to injure you idiots down there whose doctors are the real killers? WHAT A LAUGH!

Reputable online pharmacies here have phone numbers and addresses in plain sight on their web sites. If the pharamcists are licenced here they are fine to buy from. If the buyer feels the need to 'beware' then there is nothing wrong with researching the company they wish to do business with by checking with The College of Pharmacists of BC before doing business.
bcpharmacists.org

I happen to know the Registrar of the College personally and there are few organizations in the USA that are easily accessible by phone or e-mail as this one is. A person could go nuts trying to get info in any of the dis-United States of America. Canada is miles ahead of the USA in uniformity and dependable service and informed pharmacists.

Your argument that an undue amount of expenses on R&D are done in America is also a load of nonsense. Many drugs are invented in Canada and other countries in their R&D departments.

"Vancouver is an international city with far reaching tentacles."

This is a totally absurd statement not worth answering. ABSURD and ridiculous implications.

There are always internet frauds. It's too damn bad if a few STOOPID Americans can't sort out the good from the bad especially when it comes to their health. But I am not aware of phoney web sites although I'm sure there are some. If there are, I'm also sure they aren't causing anyone any injury except to lighten their pocketbooks by not delivering anything.

All that is needed is to check their licences. Canadian pharmacists aren't out to kill you bastards down there, although someone should slip Bush some more Halcion as he's totally losing it.



To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (60375)9/6/2006 3:27:45 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Good post. Too bad the idiot ralphie had to get in on this.