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To: epicure who wrote (13020)	10/14/2004 6:40:57 AM
From: redfish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

The Osama bit is apparently getting a lot of play on the television channels. A lot of people had no idea Bush ever said that, now they do. I think he has three weeks to produce Osama or he is finished. BUSH SAID: "Gosh, I don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama Bin Laden. That's kinda one of those exaggerations." "Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I--I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."

To: epicure who wrote (13020)	10/14/2004 12:23:08 PM
From: tsigprofit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

I thought Kerry did better, and won on his facts. Bush appealed to his base, like you said. Bush's couldn't answer the outsourcing question. He seemed to say that the answer was for people who were unemployed to get community college training, LOL. That doesn't address the people with 4 year degrees, and Master's Degrees that are also being displaced. When companies are replacing people with comparable education in the US at $ 70,000 with full health benefits with people in India for $ 20,000 with no benefits, no unemployment insurance, no health or labor laws, or environmental, no OSHA standards...I could go on. Obviously community college is not appropriate for them, and will do zero to fix a problem which at the core is related mainly to vast differences in lifestyle, wage rates, and just standards of living between very different countries. In the meantime, we are seeing monthly trade deficit figures of nearly 50 billion a month. These are alarming even people on the right, and conservative economists. I read where the US in now transferring between 1-2% annually of our total wealth each year overseas. We buy houses, cars, expensive items, junk. Other countries make the consumer items and manufactured goods. They get our wealth, we get items that will wear out in 5 years or so. Go figure. We borrow. Everyone is doing it. Borrow against future home price increases, income increases. It is becoming a real long-term national security issue I think at this point, as real as 9-11, or terrorism. Kerry cannot stop it, but I think he is best equipped to at least put the brakes on the practices. I think Kerry has a real shot at this, but I hope that people wake up and think about the real issues in time to make a difference.