To: LindyBill who wrote (77462 ) 10/14/2004 10:03:41 AM From: LindyBill Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793838 INDC Journal - New Swift Vet Ads By Bill The Swift Vets and POWs for Truth released two new ads yesterday, and they both make a pretty powerful statement. The ads seem specifically designed to counter the dismissive conventional wisdom espoused by a scornful media, and the second one is particularly effective because of the direct, angry questioning from men that were POW's. Bud Day's angry stare and Medal of Honor don't hurt. I fail to see how anyone can dismiss these men as Republican shills after viewing that ad, unless they're Republican shills and professional actors that are willing to dishonor their service with convincing performances. These guys were tortured in Vietnamese prisons, and Saturday Night Live does a skit making the outrageous claim that they really care about taxes and gay marriage? Eleonor Clift attacks them as Bush's political "sleeper cells," a term usually reserved for terrorists? The Daily Show cracks smarmy Gen-Y jokes about their honesty? Andrew Sullivan dismisses them and comes the the conclusion that their claims were "largely unproven hearsay and malice," equating them to the "sleaze" that's rampant among 527's? All I can say is shame - shame is what those people should feel. It's not anyone's place to casually condemn men that are angry about suffering defamation as war criminals and torture in defense of our country by slandering them as lying partisans or paid operatives. There are also very legitimate ways to criticize them and flawed aspects of their methodology, while still showing an adequate level of respect. Let's see Eleonor Clift, Jon Stewart and Andrew Sullivan take a few years of torture in a North Vietnamese prison camp - then we'll ask them about their priorities. As always, watch the ads and decide for yourself.