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To: Larry S. who wrote (21870)	10/14/2004 1:53:14 PM
From: kodiak_bull	Respond to of 23153

Larry, The US will be blamed for any and every thing. We will be blamed for: intervening (called meddling) not intervening being arrogant being absent throwing our money around not spending enough money using our military power not using our military power leading the world economy (globalization) not doing enough to lead the world economy being aggressive being passive being too active being complacent There is no end to this. In the 1970s I lived with a bunch of South Americans in Madrid and they griped nonstop about the US (El Yanqui) on all of the above. Especially the Argentines. So did the Europeans. Did you see a recent movie, "L'Auberge Espagnole" by any chance? I found it very interesting as a metaphor for 21st century Europe, effete and oblivious to the world passing them by. Other countries are whined about in similar terms, depending on where you are, but clearly the biggest and easiest target is the US. An analogy is Microsoft, a company I admire and one which has done more to make everybody's life so much better that a world without MS's products is not even imaginable. What is their reward? Pretty similar to the US's on the world stage. The Dems would like to lay most of it at George W's feet, but the hostility toward the US has, in my memory, gone on without cease through JFK, LBJ, Nixon/Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and now GWB. No matter who is the next president, and the one after that, until our era of glory is over and we sit around like Spain or England speaking of past power, it will continue. We are such a spectacular target. Kb

To: Larry S. who wrote (21870)	10/14/2004 2:45:02 PM
From: kodiak_bull	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23153

Here's the very interesting real futures market for the electoral college, on a buy/sell basis. Click on Politics and then US Presidential Elec to go state by state futures contracts for Bush: intrade.com It's very interesting because if you open up one of the "map" sites you can then go down, state by state and see how the electoral part of the election is doing. For example on this map, Iowa, New Jersey and New Hampshire are seen as dead heats: electoral-vote.com In the futures market Iowa is 53 x 55 for Bush, but New Hampshire and New Jersey are dead certain for Kerry. New Mexico which is "barely Bush" on the map is clearly Kerry in the futures market. We'll see, in the end, how much more accurate the real money polls (futures) are than the corruptible polls (telephone calls to likely voters, etc.). Kb