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To: Neocon who wrote (148064)	10/15/2004 5:00:31 PM
From: Michael Watkins	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

The National Review is hardly unbiased. Again, the facts: 1. Nuclear smoking gun - false, known in AUGUST 2001 2. Office of Special Plans created, staffed almost entirely (what is known of it) by neoconservatives with utterly complete and total ties to Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld. OSP feeds Cheney what he wants to hear, since they are "his" guys. 3. As the Iraq war rhetoric is jacked up, suddenly RICE / CHENEY / BUSH / POWELL are publicly stating that Nuclear Smoking Gun is true, even though almost two years prior this "made up fact" was quite effectively disputed. More than one intelligence expert is quoted as being shocked that the president would use false information to justify this conclusion. The record will stand, regardless of what the National Review prints, or what Frank Gaffney, the editorial writer of the article, says. Gaffney is no outsider, he was Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy and Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under Richard Perle. He is thoroughly connected to the upper echelons of the political scene in Washington up to and including virtually all of the Executive Branch. You know those folks right? Those folks fill out the National Security Council, the people that Office of Special Plans sent their "conclusions" (cherry picked facts) to. Why bring up Gaffney? He's as political and as indebted as they come. Keep 'em coming Neocon, you are digging a deeper hole with each step.

To: Neocon who wrote (148064)	10/15/2004 5:28:11 PM
From: dumbmoney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

As papers of record, however reluctantly, eventually publish the truth, they will be recognized for the heroes they truly are. Besides his heroism (he survived several paper cuts), I'll always remember Feith as the guy "sitting in his library surrounded by stacks of Commentary magazines and books on the British empire and the Middle East" (description by Jacob Heilbrunn of the LATimes) and as "the @#$%ing stupidest guy on the face of the earth" (description by Gen. Tommy Franks). Is it really so incredible that a bunch of hard-core ideologues who have devoted years of their lives agitating for war on Iraq (and more) would perhaps be just a little, um, biased when it comes to selecting and interpreting raw intel?