To: Brumar89 who wrote (13051 ) 10/16/2004 10:53:46 AM From: tsigprofit Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773 Brumar, as Bush says, where to start to respond. John McLaughlin, on the McLaughlin Report on PBS stated in very large BOLD letters that there were no WMDs, last WMDs in any stage of production were pre-1991 Gulf War, Saddam did not pursue these after this. The show also stated that the Sanctions and Inspections regime worked 100%. No plans for WMD were found. Now, McLaughlin is a conservative, hardly a raving liberal, but he only confirmed the level of misleading going on under Bush. There are probably 20 other countries that have more WMD plans than Iraq had. Wrong war, wrong place, wrong reasons.. As for Clinton and Serbia, I agreed with him on humanitarian grounds to prevent current genocide, something we did not see (genocide currently) in Iraq. Also - we went in with NATO approval at least, not like Iraq. As for Congress giving Bush the vote to do this - you know that they voted based on the intelligence Bush gave them, and his promise to do it only with Allies, as a last resort, and with proper planning in place. He broke that promise. He did not bring in Allies. We are paying most of the 200 billion in costs. We have suffered 90% of the casualties. Not like the first Gulf War. It was not done as a last resort. The UN has called the war illegal. We had to drag our very best friends like England into it. That has hurt Tony Blair. Spain pulled out. And planning was not done for the post-war. Bush has now handed the next President a giant mess - both economically, and with this adventure in Iraq. I was all for the invasion of Afghanistan. We should have concentrated more forces there - and bombed the hell out of the area we let them escape to. Not a liberal / conservative thing. It's about doing what is right to go after those that attacked us, to eliminate them. We need a change. I believe Kerry will do a better job, and deserves the chance to try. >>