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To: Jill who wrote (24567)10/16/2004 4:15:40 PM
From: JayPCRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 306849
 
We'll i disagree. I enjoy Grace's posts. I like to hear about successful lives and how success was/is achieved. I don't see them as bragging, perhaps if you read them as a parable, you might get more meaning out of them.

Regards,
Jay



To: Jill who wrote (24567)10/16/2004 7:45:09 PM
From: nextrade!Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 306849
 
A bursting bubble blew U.S. jobs away

Floyd Norris International Herald Tribune

Saturday, October 16, 2004

iht.com

When the U.S. stock market bubble burst more than four years ago, it damaged more than the stock market. The enduring legacy was the elimination of millions of jobs in parts of the American economy that had been the strongest.

And those declines, many of which have continued even as the overall economy has recovered this year, have become an issue in the presidential campaign. Senator John Kerry blames the decline on President George W. Bush, and John Snow, the Treasury secretary, says the economy was in "sharp decline" when Bush was inaugurated.

The good news in the job numbers for the president is that 1.8 million jobs have been added since the employment picture hit bottom in August 2003. But that still leaves the economy with 821,000 fewer jobs than in January 2001. In the private sector, there are 1.6 million fewer jobs, a decline of 1.5 percent.

The recovery has been relatively weak in large part because many of the industries that benefited most from the bubble that created the boom economy of the late 1990s are still suffering.

The telecommunications service industry has lost 291,000 jobs, amounting to 22 percent of its work force when Bush took office. The category that includes Internet service providers and data processing has lost 112,000 jobs, also 22 percent. Publishing employment is down 131,000 jobs, or 13 percent.

Manufacturing employment has been in a long-term decline since 1979. By the time Bush took office, 2.4 million jobs had vanished over two decades. In the less than four years since, a further 2.7 million jobs have gone. Since that category hit bottom in January, only 70,000 jobs have been added.

Within manufacturing, the decline is most significant in computers and telecommunications, areas that boomed in the 1990s. More than one-third of the manufacturing jobs in communications and semiconductors are gone, as are more than a quarter of the computer manufacturing posts.

So where are the new jobs in this administration? Government employment is up, and so is health care. Real estate employment is up 8 percent. Over all, employment in private-sector service industries has grown, but by just 1.1 percent, the slowest rate in any post-World War II administration.

Since 1949, Democratic administrations have tended to see more private-sector jobs created than have Republican ones. The two worst-performing administrations from the time they took office through September of the next election year were those of George H.W. Bush, the current president's father, up 0.8 percent, and the second administration of Dwight D. Eisenhower, up 1 percent. In each case, a close election led to Democrats' replacing Republicans in the White House.

When the U.S. stock market bubble burst more than four years ago, it damaged more than the stock market. The enduring legacy was the elimination of millions of jobs in parts of the American economy that had been the strongest.

And those declines, many of which have continued even as the overall economy has recovered this year, have become an issue in the presidential campaign. Senator John Kerry blames the decline on President George W. Bush, and John Snow, the Treasury secretary, says the economy was in "sharp decline" when Bush was inaugurated.

The good news in the job numbers for the president is that 1.8 million jobs have been added since the employment picture hit bottom in August 2003. But that still leaves the economy with 821,000 fewer jobs than in January 2001. In the private sector, there are 1.6 million fewer jobs, a decline of 1.5 percent.

The recovery has been relatively weak in large part because many of the industries that benefited most from the bubble that created the boom economy of the late 1990s are still suffering.

The telecommunications service industry has lost 291,000 jobs, amounting to 22 percent of its work force when Bush took office. The category that includes Internet service providers and data processing has lost 112,000 jobs, also 22 percent. Publishing employment is down 131,000 jobs, or 13 percent.

Manufacturing employment has been in a long-term decline since 1979. By the time Bush took office, 2.4 million jobs had vanished over two decades. In the less than four years since, a further 2.7 million jobs have gone. Since that category hit bottom in January, only 70,000 jobs have been added.

Within manufacturing, the decline is most significant in computers and telecommunications, areas that boomed in the 1990s. More than one-third of the manufacturing jobs in communications and semiconductors are gone, as are more than a quarter of the computer manufacturing posts.

So where are the new jobs in this administration? Government employment is up, and so is health care. Real estate employment is up 8 percent. Over all, employment in private-sector service industries has grown, but by just 1.1 percent, the slowest rate in any post-World War II administration.

Since 1949, Democratic administrations have tended to see more private-sector jobs created than have Republican ones. The two worst-performing administrations from the time they took office through September of the next election year were those of George H.W. Bush, the current president's father, up 0.8 percent, and the second administration of Dwight D. Eisenhower, up 1 percent. In each case, a close election led to Democrats' replacing Republicans in the White House.

When the U.S. stock market bubble burst more than four years ago, it damaged more than the stock market. The enduring legacy was the elimination of millions of jobs in parts of the American economy that had been the strongest.

And those declines, many of which have continued even as the overall economy has recovered this year, have become an issue in the presidential campaign. Senator John Kerry blames the decline on President George W. Bush, and John Snow, the Treasury secretary, says the economy was in "sharp decline" when Bush was inaugurated.

The good news in the job numbers for the president is that 1.8 million jobs have been added since the employment picture hit bottom in August 2003. But that still leaves the economy with 821,000 fewer jobs than in January 2001. In the private sector, there are 1.6 million fewer jobs, a decline of 1.5 percent.

The recovery has been relatively weak in large part because many of the industries that benefited most from the bubble that created the boom economy of the late 1990s are still suffering.

The telecommunications service industry has lost 291,000 jobs, amounting to 22 percent of its work force when Bush took office. The category that includes Internet service providers and data processing has lost 112,000 jobs, also 22 percent. Publishing employment is down 131,000 jobs, or 13 percent.

Manufacturing employment has been in a long-term decline since 1979. By the time Bush took office, 2.4 million jobs had vanished over two decades. In the less than four years since, a further 2.7 million jobs have gone. Since that category hit bottom in January, only 70,000 jobs have been added.

Within manufacturing, the decline is most significant in computers and telecommunications, areas that boomed in the 1990s. More than one-third of the manufacturing jobs in communications and semiconductors are gone, as are more than a quarter of the computer manufacturing posts.

So where are the new jobs in this administration? Government employment is up, and so is health care. Real estate employment is up 8 percent. Over all, employment in private-sector service industries has grown, but by just 1.1 percent, the slowest rate in any post-World War II administration.

Since 1949, Democratic administrations have tended to see more private-sector jobs created than have Republican ones. The two worst-performing administrations from the time they took office through September of the next election year were those of George H.W. Bush, the current president's father, up 0.8 percent, and the second administration of Dwight D. Eisenhower, up 1 percent. In each case, a close election led to Democrats' replacing Republicans in the White House.



To: Jill who wrote (24567)10/16/2004 7:50:23 PM
From: GraceZRead Replies (4) | Respond to of 306849
 
Well the great thing about being a woman on the Internet is that I look exactly as you imagine until proven otherwise. Actually I look more like an aging hippie than the person you describe.

Here's to ruining everyone's misconception:

mywebpages.comcast.net

BTW I've been helping people understand money for a very long time, not just since I've been writing on SI. It's been my avocation for many years. I do this because others did it for me and I like the subject.

Having advised people about their financial situation over the years, I find that people will sooner tell you the intimate details of their sex life before they'll share their financial situation even when they've asked for your help. It's embarrassing for them to admit to not understanding things. I remember what it felt like to be in their place. I try to speak and write as frankly as possible without preaching, to demystify money, the economy and wealth accumulation. I've made numerous money mistakes over my life. So far none were fatal. Given enough time most can be fixed but the most important thing is to understand the problem and deal with it without succumbing to the emotions and fear that money seems to bring out in most people.

It's the state of global finances, and the equity bubble in this case, that counts...and the national/individual debt and what most boomers will do when they don't get ss benefits

I have little doubt that the current debt situation and SS situation will resolve itself over time with little disruption to the US economy. I might be one of a few people left in the US who believes this! If anything the US economy has become more resistant to shocks than it ever has been. Volatility in the GDP is at an all time low. The dollar may adjust lower but a few years ago we were suffering the consequences of a dollar which was too strong. This exposed many inefficiencies which have since been alleviated. This is the best business environment I've had to operate in since the mid 1980s in spite of the overwhelming pessimism expressed on these boards.



To: Jill who wrote (24567)10/17/2004 11:49:03 AM
From: RarebirdRespond to of 306849
 
<It's the state of global finances, and the equity bubble in this case, that counts...and the national/individual DEBT and what most boomers will do when they don't get ss benefits as expected etc...and also, what we currently want to do as investors/traders etc, who post here>

America now runs an annual current account deficit approaching 6 per cent of its GDP - or more than $US 660 Billion - while its government borrowing this financial year is heading for an official record of $US 422 Billion. In fact, the Treasury's "debt to the penny" page shows Treasury debt increasing by a record $US 595.8 Billion in fiscal 2004. In addition, the official figure does not include the borrowing the US Treasury does from US Social Security, etc.. If that was included, it would take the US budget deficit past the $US 700 Billion mark. The US credit money system is running wildly out of control and nobody in the US dares to slow it down, never mind even try to stop it. If anyone did try, this mountain of accumulated debts would come crashing down. So, everyone is borrowing more at ever higher speeds simply to service all the accumulated past debts. This is a grotesquely blown-up version of getting a new credit card and using it to pay off all of the myriad of "old" ones.