To: i-node who wrote (207117 ) 10/17/2004 4:15:58 AM From: Elroy Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1584934 he honestly didn't believe in nation building before 9/11 but is the world's greatest advocate of it now I've not heard him advocating any such thing. What do you think he is doing in Iraq if not rebuilding a failed nation state? he honestly believes his faith is personal and therefore discusses it publicly in every opportunity presented to him WHAT? Name one instance where he discussed it publicly OTHER than in response to a question about it. I don't have the gazillion quotes at hand that everyone else on this board does, but it certainly comes up with George much more than it did with any President that I can recall. He regularly describes his international policies (promote freedom, etc.) in religious terms, much more so than prior Presidents. At least, his frequent discussion of his faith in public, presidential forums goes against the idea that it is a very personal thing. If it is personal, he can keep it to himself. You don't disagree that George discusses his PERSONAL religious faith in PUBLIC, PRESIDENTIAL events much more than prior Presidents, do you? he got into Harvard MBA despite a C average in Yale and honestly believes his lineage had nothing to do with that. Can you prove this occurred? Prove what occurred? The C student I get from his enemies campaign rhetoric (no idea if it is true, is it?), but the admission to Harvard part is accurate. Based on what I know about his pre-Harvard career accomplishments and the public lore about his Yale days at school (social guy that wasn't an overachiever is the general description) I've seen nothing that merits admission to Harvard B-School on individual merit. Maybe I've missed something in that discussion, but its not hard to believe. Why do you think George got accepted to Harvard B-School? His above average honesty and integrity?