To: E who wrote (646534 ) 10/17/2004 4:59:12 PM From: Rainy_Day_Woman Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 You think the tee shirt picture "looks like his shoulder blade"? yesWhat can one say to a statement so odd. Except look at it again. If it's a shoulder blade, it has escaped from its home in his body. no - nor did it 'escape' his body [talk about odd]Do you think this one looks like his spine? noRDW! Can you be so naive as to think that there is such a thing as a "casual encounter with the press" (and its cameras and notebooks) when you are a presidential candidate and every word you say is -- your handlers are aware -- liable to appear next morning as a headline? Particularly when it's George Bush? well then he [per your theory] must wear a 'devise' about every waking minute - for he lives in the public eye and is besieged by the press whenever he leaves the White House groundsThe entities in the photos above, and in many others, which to you are invisible, are not comparable to the pen Kerry took out of his pocket that you brought into the discussion when you re-raised this issue I think they are - if it's considered cheating, it's cheating, no matter what levelWhy are you raising this pen thing again I never raised the issue before and didn't know this thread did or that you were involved in debating it - hence, it's my first offense - I brought it in for you were talking about cheating in the debatesI guess that I know now why the WH says there's nothing under his clothing. Because those who want to deny the evidence of their eyes I doubt if the WH based their statement on my eyes - and deny is your opinion - for I do not see a device on several of the pics you linked and that is my opinion/judgementSome day, there will be an answer. It will not be that the thing under the tee shirt and suit in the photos at the links above are body parts I doubt that there will ever be a definitive answer - for I think no one will ever know what if anything was under the t-shirt and suit - as I said, hard evidence for this is approximately zero - speculation and innuendo 90+ do you think John Kerry cheated by bringing prohibited material into the Presidential Debate? are there degrees of cheating? acceptable cheating? since you need to know if one or both of them are cheaters, what does it now mean to you? will it effect your vote? I saw and read that link before and my Packers won! it's a good day