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To: KLP who wrote (78448)	10/17/2004 6:05:22 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793887

Wow! Her bio confirms she did indeed intend to call John Kerry a pig wearing lipstick, and complete with the homosexual-drag innuendo. A cunning linquistic indeed! She wasn't using the words accidentally. Which confirms she's no lady. Hubby Dick adopts the same language, following her linguistic lead. Birds of a feather "flock" together. With a long-term husband who would stand in the public midst in Congress and say what Dick Cheney said, one could conclude that his wife would consider such language a-ok. As I said, no wonder her daughter is a dyke. John Kerry was wrong in that case, [the idea that homosexuality is innate from birth]. I suppose I could ask Google about identical twin studies and homosexuality to get the dinkum oil and see which pigs are wearing lipstick and which aren't. Thanks for the link. Meanwhile, it's nice to see King George II say "Read my lips! NO NEW DRAFT!!" Good for him. Pots and kettles both black. Cheney/Bush/Kerry - Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. Swearing to show how manly they are. washingtonpost.com <...On Tuesday, Cheney, serving in his role as president of the Senate, appeared in the chamber for a photo session. A chance meeting with Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (Vt.), the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, became an argument about Cheney's ties to Halliburton Co., an international energy services corporation, and President Bush's judicial nominees. The exchange ended when Cheney offered some crass advice. "Fuck yourself," said the man who is a heartbeat from the presidency. Leahy's spokesman, David Carle, yesterday confirmed the brief but fierce exchange. "The vice president seemed to be taking personally the criticism that Senator Leahy and others have leveled against Halliburton's sole-source contracts in Iraq," Carle said. As it happens, the exchange occurred on the same day the Senate passed legislation described as the "Defense of Decency Act" by 99 to 1. Cheney's office did not deny that the phrase was uttered. His spokesman, Kevin S. Kellems, would say only that this language is not typical of the vice presidential vocabulary. "Reserving the right to revise and extend my remarks, that doesn't sound like language the vice president would use," Kellems said, "but there was a frank exchange of views." Gleeful Democrats pointed out that the White House has not always been so forgiving of obscenity. In December, Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry was quoted using the same word in describing Bush's Iraq policy as botched. The president's chief of staff reacted with indignation. "That's beneath John Kerry," Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. said. "I'm very disappointed that he would use that kind of language. I'm hoping that he's apologizing at least to himself, because that's not the John Kerry that I know." This was not the first foray into French by Cheney and his boss. During the 2000 campaign, Bush pointed out a New York Times reporter to Cheney and said, without knowing the microphone was picking it up, "major-league [expletive]." Cheney's response -- "Big Time" -- has become his official presidential nickname. Then there was that famous Talk magazine interview of Bush by Tucker Carlson in 1999, in which the future president repeatedly used the F-word. ... > Swearing is a sign of weakness when we abandon rationality, good sense, self-determination and have missed the golf ball. It is also a sign of arrogance when inflicted on other people. Weakness and arrogance. Mqurice

To: KLP who wrote (78448)	10/17/2004 6:20:41 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793887

Meanwhile, more "family values" RRR hypocrisy from Fox News: freep.com < And now, Bill O'Reilly, the conservative commentator, who is being sued by a Fox News producer for alleged sexual harassment. Andrea Mackris, a 33-year-old producer, said that O'Reilly made lewd comments about vibrators, phone sex, ménages a trois and tales of his own sexual exploits, according to USA Today. This alleged behavior goes back as far as December 2003, Mackris charges in a complaint that she sent to Fox News executives last month. In response, O'Reilly filed suit charging that not only Mackris but her attorney, Benedict Morelli, were trying to extort $60 million from him. So Mackris filed suit. Now she's explaining why she left Fox News to work for CNN but returned to Fox News and her $93,200 job with O'Reilly five months later - while allegedly being harassed. (Her attorney says that O'Reilly promised to stop the behavior). What he didn't say O'Reilly claims the whole thing is a publicity stunt, an attempt to embarrass Fox News while it's at the top of its game. On the "Live with Regis and Kelly" show, O'Reilly said, "I'm a big mouth.... But I'm a person who will say 'Enough.' " Had enough? Good. Now forget all charges and countercharges and consider this: O'Reilly, who has made enough people mad in America to expect slings and arrows, admitted something in his lawsuit. And that's where the married men and hotel rooms come into play. He acknowledged having cocktails with Mackris and watching a presidential news conference alone with her in his hotel room. He denied engaging in physical or sexual assaults. He denied that any "offensive touching" took place.But he didn't deny having sex. He didn't deny talking with Mackris about vibrators and phone sex and engaging in stuff that people usually use pay-per-view to watch. He didn't even deny exchanging tales of his sexual prowess, something that guys sometimes do with other guys or women they think they know. He didn't deny any of the behavior that Mackris alleges in her suit. What he didn't think So here's the thing: How many times does this have to happen before men stop thinking with what's below their waists instead of what's above their shoulders? Why is it necessary for the private wives (or sometimes not so private wives) of public men to suffer because riches and power and fame will make men do stupid things? Unless Andrea Mackris has a tape of Bill O'Reilly that would get greater ratings than his show, this is yet another case in America of a famous person denying bad behavior while having to admit to something stupid. If she's got a tape, then she's smarter than O'Reilly might have thought...> Apparently she has a tape. CBS/Fox - pretty soon, people will start to realize that journalists are no better than politicians in terms of credibility and morality. Mqurice