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To: Paul Senior who wrote (19910)10/19/2004 4:45:35 PM
From: Carl Worth  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78702
 
interesting to play guess the bottom in CL (i don't own it, so have no stake in the race)

certainly they have tremendous brand name recognition which should continue to give them a strong place in the markets they serve (their warning even included reference to expanding market share)

they have a mediocre at best balance sheet, so they get zero value for that IMHO

as such, a multiple of 15x next year's earnings would yield a price of 40 bucks, and that seems about right considering their franchise, adjusted for no earnings growth this year, and probably about 10% growth in the future...obviously 40 also has the added probability of round number support

i'd rather own something like PEP, but CL is probably attractive around 40, especially to sell puts, as worst case you end up with a solid company that would at that point pay a 2.5% dividend

anyone else want to play guess the bottom? -g-



To: Paul Senior who wrote (19910)10/19/2004 8:28:25 PM
From: Investor2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78702
 
Hi Paul. I came to SI to post a message to you about CL, and I found that you beat me to the punch! My message was this:

Over the years, it worked out well when I added to my CL holdings when the yield rose to 2.2% or above.

I just visited Yahoo, and saw a yield of 2.19%.

Best wishes,

I2



To: Paul Senior who wrote (19910)10/19/2004 11:17:57 PM
From: voodooist  Respond to of 78702
 
Paul, long time since I've been here and spoken to you. Each time I search SI for a stock that I am buying or own, you appear. I have just nibbled on some CL for the first time, (even though earnings are tomorrow). Don't know whether you have examined the five year chart, but it calls out to my voodoo instincts. Hoping to buy more tomorrow.
That aside, I still like BMY. Perhaps it's finally bottomed?