To: Neocon who wrote (148226 ) 10/19/2004 6:02:29 PM From: Michael Watkins Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 In the very article you use, it says that the Department of Energy, though dissenting on the tubes, agreed that there was a nuclear program. Thus, the tubes were not as important as you make out. Uh, yes, they were important. They formed the basis of the administration's case against Iraq, giving them a lever over Congress, a mushroom cloud. But no, the article does not state that the Energy Department held the view that Iraq was reconstituting a weapons program. No source from DOE is quoted as stating that. The article states that an "administration official" - a spokesperson for the very people who used cherry picked data to support incorrect conclusions - claimed that Tenet and DOE were in agreement as to the nature of the tubes. Introducing uncertainty in such a way is known as the diversion and blame game. You've heard of it I am sure. Last week, when asked about the tubes, administration officials said they relied on repeated assurances by George J. Tenet, then the director of central intelligence, that the tubes were in fact for centrifuges. They also noted that the intelligence community, including the Energy Department, largely agreed that Mr. Hussein had revived his nuclear program. Except that the article extensively cites DOE sources throughout, and the takeaway from the article is very clearly that DOE experts were alarmed that a debunked premise was being used to justify a war.Meanwhile, at the Energy Department, scientists were startled to find senior White House officials embracing a view of the tubes they considered thoroughly discredited. 'I was really shocked in 2002 when I saw it was still there,' Dr. Wood, the Oak Ridge adviser, said of the centrifuge claim. 'I thought it had been put to bed.' You can't blame the administration spokesperson for trying to divert attention away from the principals involved, but given the evidence in that article, and in the available declassified information out already, its not credible and a pretty pathetic attempt at that. IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THIS, READ IT. October 3, 2004 How the White House Embraced Disputed Arms Intelligence By DAVID BARSTOW, WILLIAM J. BROAD and JEFF GERTH NY Timesnytimes.com