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To: AK2004 who wrote (207713)10/20/2004 3:42:31 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574260
 
1) Re: there were one or two in the group

let me give you a clue, most of the chechen terrorists (or as you call those killers of children - independence fighters) are not chechens. Most of them are anti-west arabs and some are guns for hire....


I see.........and you work for the KGB or you are a personal friend of Putin's or you live in Chechnya?

The reason I ask is that the Chechens who were entrapped in the building and who have commented say that most of the fighters were from Chechnya or the neighboring province. Even Moscow has said that only a couple of the fighters might have links to al Qa'ida.

2) re: Yeah, and the Pope is Jewish. If you believe the above, I have CA freeways for sale.........real cheap!

well, it is in the history books, chechen republic was independent..... Does that mean that Pope is Jewish?


And wasn't the guy who got 'elected'a Moscow puppet? And aren't you a bit anti Arab........I seem to recall from your posts of last year that you feel very strongly about what the Arabs have done to Israel.

3) re: The republic is rich in valuable species of trees and meadows. The depths of Chechnya are also rich in oil and other minerals.

I did not say there were no oil, after all part of the Hitler's strategy during WWII was to reach southern oil fields. But the main russian oil reserves are in the north-east, as I said, so try google again


Huh? Oil is oil. It generates nearly the same revenue whether its from the Northeast or the South. Why suggest it is an unimportant part of the equation?



To: AK2004 who wrote (207713)10/20/2004 3:45:27 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574260
 
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

So then, are you suggesting Sen. Campbell should keep his mouth shut?

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Hearing: Developments in the Chechen Conflict

Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe
May 09, 2002 return

Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell
Chairman
Helsinki Commission

The ongoing war in Chechnya, the second in the past ten years, has resulted in the most egregious human rights violations in the OSCE region today. Hundreds of thousands of persons have been forced to leave their homes and settle in refugee camps or find shelter wherever they can. The capital city of Grozny has been bombed to the point where World War II veterans compare it to Stalingrad. Hundreds of individuals in Chechnya have been killed, or have disappeared into so-called “filtration camps” from which they emerge beaten and tortured, or not at all. Others cling to the wreckage of their homes as they struggle for their very existence daily. Russian soldiers die in fewer numbers, but their deaths are no less sorrowful to parents and loved ones.

The recently released State Department Country Report on Human Rights Practices documents a pattern of clear, gross and uncorrected violations of basic human rights in Chechnya. While there appear to be credible linkages between some elements of the Chechen insurgency and outside terrorists groups, this does not diminish the responsibility of the Russian authorities to uphold the rights of civilians in Chechnya -- those who have by far borne the brunt of the Russian military campaign to root out separatists in the region.

The failure of the Russian leadership to investigate and hold members of the military and other responsible for gross human rights violations in Chechnya accountable for their crimes is particularly disturbing.

Two and a half years after the Istanbul OSCE summit, the Russian Federation has yet to earnestly pursue a political solution to the conflict in Chechnya. Left to fester further, the Chechen war will only lead to more hardship and suffering for the people of the region. As Secretary Powell concluded at the Bucharest OSCE Ministerial in December, “Peace in this region will not only end a bloody conflict, it would deny political cover to terrorists in Chechnya.”

As President Bush prepares to hold his first summit in Russia later this month, I urge him to raise developments in Chechnya with President Putin, urging the Russian leader to pursue a path that will bring peace to that war torn part of Russia.

csce.gov