To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (53266 ) 10/20/2004 4:31:06 PM From: MulhollandDrive Respond to of 57110 speaking of airlines... do you remember that discussion we had many moons ago about charging passengers by the pound... (at the time some of us were bitching about the fact that the extremely overweight should be required to book either first class or 2 seats.....apparently now the weight standards for safety are insufficient such that lives are on the line)cbc.ca Air safety board wants higher passenger weight standards Last Updated Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:07:57 EDT OTTAWA - Ottawa needs to raise the weight standards for airplanes because Canadians and their luggage have gotten heavier, an independent safety agency claims. INDEPTH: Obesity Jim Karygiannis (file photo) The Transportation Safety Board of Canada made the recommendation following the review of a Lake Erie crash earlier this year that killed 10 people. Investigators believe the plane was 15 per cent over its weight limit. In its recommendations, the safety agency said the standard weights used to calculate the number of passengers a plane can carry safely no longer represent the general population. The agency said weights are being underestimated. "It's a no-brainer," Jim Karygiannis, parliamentary secretary to Transport Minister Jean Lapierre, told the Globe and Mail Tuesday. "The average Canadian is getting bigger and bigger." The board recommended that standard weights for men be raised by 13 pounds (six kilograms) for males over age 12, and by 25 pounds (11 kg) for females over 12. For smaller planes, like the one that crashed in Lake Erie in January, the board suggested the actual weight of each passenger be used to determine flight safety instead of relying on average weights. A spokesperson for Transport Canada told the Globe and Mail that each airline would decide whether to have passengers stand on scales or simply write down their weights before boarding a small plane. <editorial comment......LOL!> Canadian air passengers are also carrying heavier luggage like notebook computers on the plane, the board said. The standard weight should be increased by five pounds (2.3 kg) a person for carry-on luggage. The recommendations are expected to be adopted by Jan. 20.