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To: Michael Watkins who wrote (148458)	10/20/2004 10:09:58 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 281500

I wasn't saying the situation in Iraq is just like what the situation in Germany or Japan was like. It isn't, and it isn't just like the situation in Israel/Palestine either. I would call any of those comparisons "a real stretch" if the person doing the comparison was trying to imply everything would work out in Iraq pretty much the way it worked out in one of the other situations. I was making a refutation by logical analogy. A sort of informal one as I didn't lay out all the assumed premises and construct formal arguments. I took your statement " When "coalition forces" troops are still in Iraq 1 year, 2 years, 3 years or more from now, will more Iraqi's, or less, feel they were conquered? " to be more or less an argument that if we have forces there for a certain number of years that the country will have been invaded for conquest. We could have soldier in a foreign country for decades without it being an invasion and Germany and Japan (and Korea and other places) are good examples of that. To be fair you didn't say "does that mean we invaded Iraq for conquest?", you said " will more Iraqi's, or less, feel they were conquered?", so you are dealing with their mindset which complicates things a bit. Its hard to really tell when you are not only asking me to comment on someone else's opinion but also to predict the future but if I have to guess I would say less Iraqis will feel they have been invaded for the purpose of the United States conquering and controlling their country. In the next few years their own government should start doing more and more. American forces might still be needed to train and back up the locals but the Iraqi government already has started taking over more power in Iraq. Tim