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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (61943)	10/21/2004 2:53:42 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 89467

Hi Jim, Re: never said Yukos CEO Khordokovsky is a prince of a man You appeared to be defending the indefensible. Face facts, the transfer of the wealth of Russia into the hands of a tiny oligarchy in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet system can only be described as the grandest larceny of the 20th Century. Only to be topped immediately in the new century by the vast theft that the American oligarchs are engaged in in Iraq. In Russia, the general public has been greatly impoverished by the oligarch system. Thus, Putin is in the process of reining in the excesses of criminality that swept over Russian financial interests in the 1990s. I am completely indifferent to your notion that U.S. based oil companies are inconvenienced by this rationalization of the public finances of Russia. In fact, it seems downright greedy and small-minded for you to be expressing such a concern in the face of the terrible suffering of the people of Russia. * Re: the USA Military is building a crescent of military bases in the Former Soviet "Stan" republics dont be naive yourself, Naive? In what sense? I've read Brzezinski's "The Grand Chessboard", Johnson's "The Sorrows of Empire" and PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses" among plenty of other works on American imperialism. To say that I'm opposed to imperial adventurism hardly makes me naive. I prefer to think that it makes me decent. * Re: are you aware of the PanAm Silver case? It would be useful if you could provide a URL to the appropriate literature on this case. *** Re: what, in your wisdom, do you propose? Restructuring our energy industries to reflect the actual reserves that the U.S. currently holds. Lessening our dependence on Eurasian supplies to the greatest extent possible so that we can shrink the imperial military machine and bring it back to our shores. Revert back to a humbler and more sane policy where we listen to the wisdom of President George Washington when he told us to "avoid foreign entanglements" and the wisdom of President Dwight Eisenhower who advised that we be wary of "the undue influence of the military-industrial complex". America is being bankrupted by this military-industrial complex. It is time for fiscal sanity and a return to decency. The naked aggression against Iraq was and continues to be a war crime, a violation of international law and a violation of the principles upon which this great nation was founded. We need to imprison those who have hijacked our government and used this theft to perpetrate even grander scales of larceny across the planet. The Bush White House is not serving America's interests. Indeed, it is bankrupting America for the sake of the greed of a tiny handful of oligarchs who then turn around and bribe the GOP for more favors. This process can be called "the self-licking ice cream cone". The shame of this is that it is destroying the middle class in America in order to further engorge the already fatted masters of the nation. Shame on them for living only for the sake of greed. -Ray

To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (61943)	10/21/2004 5:30:42 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

While Moscow invests heavily in unlimited oil production for the future, New York squanders America's dwindling oil profits on fast cars and fast women joevialls.altermedia.info <<... Despite the fact that American intelligence already knew of Russia's achievements with ultra deep oil production from the mantle of the earth back in the early eighties, it was obvious that this slow and expensive method of adding to national oil reserves could never keep up with America's voracious appetite for gasoline. So ultimately when domestic demand grew too fast, or cash reserves were finally depleted, America would either be obliged to halve its own use of gasoline, or steal it from someone else by force. Halving gasoline usage was out of the question, so instead of building hundreds of ultra-deep drilling rigs, Wall Street squandered the cash building more aircraft carriers, with the desperate objective of attacking and permanently occupying the Middle East...>>